SIAP: It's the off season and there is only so much transfer portal and name calling I can take in a day.... so I thought I would offer a different subject to chew on while we wait...
There was a really good discussion on 810WHB Wednesday regarding the AZ Coyote's desire for a new, privately funded (30year property tax abatement) stadium complex. The referendum was voted down in Tempe, and they are now looking at Mesa for a possible new home. Essentially they are wanting 46 acres, a new arena, new practice facilities, new offices, 2 hotels, entertainment area, and apartment complex. Would this be a fit for an expansion team in KC? Could such a beast fit on the Missouri side? Would Kansas foot the bill for it and where (NKC near the speedway was general consensus).
One of the things Petro brought up, and I found fascinating, was that the Sprint Center was NOT built for an NBA or NHL franchise, even if that was part of the marketing. It was built for the large concerts, B12 basketball, and other events. Reason being that an NHL or NBA team would take most of the premium dates AND demand at least a cut of the door and other concessions. This way, that is all open and flows back to the arena. They did not rule out an expansion NBA or NHL team, of course. But the discussion really leaned towards the benefits of NOT getting one... as is the city is better off not having an arena under the control of a pro sports team when it comes to the ability to book events AND the "inducements" needed to get the teams there.
The discussion moved to the "what if" for KC with regards to NHL and NBA relocation... and then into the Royals desire for a semi-publicly funded stadium, and what the Chiefs would want in return. Approx $2B of city/county money + tax incentives over 30-50 years with the revenue for all activities/rent going to the clubs.
So the question is... is that worth it? Are you in favor of publicly funded arenas and stadiums where the revenue goes to the club, and often the upkeep and revamping comes back to the city/county/state each time? Enos built his palace in LA with his own money... should that be the new standard for ownership? Or is the civic pride of having these teams worth the millions to billions that they take away from the other uses that they could fund?
The poll is just a starting point for a greater discussion that could be had. I am interested in whether funding for the Chiefs supersedes the importance of funding for the Royals... thoughts on public funding vs private... and future NBA and NHL expansion in the area. And more controversially... should state funds be used like they were in St Louis for the dome? Would you be willing to lose the Royals if there is no public funding? How about the Chiefs to Kansas... or another city (don't say it can't happen... talk to Baltimore and Cleveland fans)?
Anyway...
omny.fm
TLDR: Tired of the pepe threads and wanted to hear something different and relevant based on what we do know.
There was a really good discussion on 810WHB Wednesday regarding the AZ Coyote's desire for a new, privately funded (30year property tax abatement) stadium complex. The referendum was voted down in Tempe, and they are now looking at Mesa for a possible new home. Essentially they are wanting 46 acres, a new arena, new practice facilities, new offices, 2 hotels, entertainment area, and apartment complex. Would this be a fit for an expansion team in KC? Could such a beast fit on the Missouri side? Would Kansas foot the bill for it and where (NKC near the speedway was general consensus).
One of the things Petro brought up, and I found fascinating, was that the Sprint Center was NOT built for an NBA or NHL franchise, even if that was part of the marketing. It was built for the large concerts, B12 basketball, and other events. Reason being that an NHL or NBA team would take most of the premium dates AND demand at least a cut of the door and other concessions. This way, that is all open and flows back to the arena. They did not rule out an expansion NBA or NHL team, of course. But the discussion really leaned towards the benefits of NOT getting one... as is the city is better off not having an arena under the control of a pro sports team when it comes to the ability to book events AND the "inducements" needed to get the teams there.
The discussion moved to the "what if" for KC with regards to NHL and NBA relocation... and then into the Royals desire for a semi-publicly funded stadium, and what the Chiefs would want in return. Approx $2B of city/county money + tax incentives over 30-50 years with the revenue for all activities/rent going to the clubs.
So the question is... is that worth it? Are you in favor of publicly funded arenas and stadiums where the revenue goes to the club, and often the upkeep and revamping comes back to the city/county/state each time? Enos built his palace in LA with his own money... should that be the new standard for ownership? Or is the civic pride of having these teams worth the millions to billions that they take away from the other uses that they could fund?
The poll is just a starting point for a greater discussion that could be had. I am interested in whether funding for the Chiefs supersedes the importance of funding for the Royals... thoughts on public funding vs private... and future NBA and NHL expansion in the area. And more controversially... should state funds be used like they were in St Louis for the dome? Would you be willing to lose the Royals if there is no public funding? How about the Chiefs to Kansas... or another city (don't say it can't happen... talk to Baltimore and Cleveland fans)?
Anyway...
H3 Frank Boal, Frank Opinions, What in the World, Soren? - The Program
The Godfather of Kansas City Sports, Frank Boal, was in for his weekly spot Wednesday afternoon. We discussed the issues with the Phoenix Coyotes and whether or not that might lead to the Coyotes coming to Kansas City. Then Frank and Soren squared off in a round of Frank Opinions. Then Frank...
omny.fm
TLDR: Tired of the pepe threads and wanted to hear something different and relevant based on what we do know.
