Kinda thinking fvck hiring a coordinator because it’s imperative we get it right, put butts in the seats, and wins on the board
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One I haven’t even thought about is Mark Dantonio. The Michigan St. faithful want him out, and he’s essentially built Michigan St. into the program we want to be.
If he could get good recruiters on staff, it’d be a perfect fit.
If he could get good recruiters on staff, it’d be a perfect fit.
Urban’s situation is not analogous to Miles’. For one, he’s 10 years younger. He also has not ever gotten fired from a head coaching gig and has pretty well dominated at every school he’s coached. Miles got fired by LSU and by all accounts wanted to get back into coaching and didn’t get a chance at a power five school until Kansas came calling. Meyer is going to have every school that needs a coach interested if he decides to coach again. I don’t see any way Mizzou can match the offer of a USC, price wise or potential wise.
I want Mizzou to win and other than a few scumbag HC I wouldn't really care who is the coach as long as they win. But I really don't want to have to put up with Fleck.
I cant remember where I read it but I do recall reading a few years ago about success of various head coach hiring philosophies and success of said coaches in the SEC.
Hiring from assistant position (i.e. 1st HC job) had worst overall performance.
Hiring HC from smaller school had best overall performance.
Hiring HC from other P5 school was either great (like Saban or Miles) or horrible (Bielema)
Offensive minded HC hires fared much better than defensive.
Hiring from assistant position (i.e. 1st HC job) had worst overall performance.
Hiring HC from smaller school had best overall performance.
Hiring HC from other P5 school was either great (like Saban or Miles) or horrible (Bielema)
Offensive minded HC hires fared much better than defensive.
I’ve always liked Chris Peterson! He’s the epitome of being a head coach. Success at Boise and Washington. HE would be a significant upgrade.
Please, no coaches without HC’ing experience, and no lateral moves. I want an upgrade....big upgrade!
It will never happen, but probably about as realistic as most coaching candidates. Here it is:
Bring Pinkel back as HC. Hire Grinch as DC and coach in waiting.
I don’t like Grinch as a HC. But as a DC learning on the job under Pinkel? Maybe.
Bring Pinkel back as HC. Hire Grinch as DC and coach in waiting.
I don’t like Grinch as a HC. But as a DC learning on the job under Pinkel? Maybe.
I would take his replacement at Boise. Harsin is young and coached at Texas and in Arkansas, so he probably has ties to recruiting the south. His wife is probably the best looking one out of the candidates as well. She isn’t a 10 or anything, but not bad.
Bob Stoops or Urban Meyer.
We are not too good for Urban, he won the East before. Would soon again, I’d say in first year. Stoops is coaching in xfl, he’s got an itch to scratch but would he coach against his brother. Probably not.
if not...coordinators from Bama, Oklahoma or Ohio State is where I’d go.
We are not too good for Urban, he won the East before. Would soon again, I’d say in first year. Stoops is coaching in xfl, he’s got an itch to scratch but would he coach against his brother. Probably not.
if not...coordinators from Bama, Oklahoma or Ohio State is where I’d go.
Man I think Mizzou can do better than Odom but some of you are in LaLa Land
Always gotta like a coach with a good looking wife! I don’t know much about Harsin. He’s doing well at Boise though. I also didn’t know about his Texas ties. Those are all bonuses. Can he bring that same success to Missouri and the SEC?
Charlie Strong is a coordinator in an HC job. He’s not HC material. Never has been.
Harsin isn't leaving his alma mater to come here
You might as well add Kyle Whittingham to the list of long shots. I'd take him in a nanosecond.
I’d want to get to know more about Blake Anderson. He seems to fit the profile very well.
Luke Fickell would be another to interview. He has experience. He wants the tOSU job which is a good thing. Means that he will need to win to earn it and not want to derail his chances with NCAA potholes.
if we are feeding HC’s to destinations like tOSU, Oklahoma, etc. we are in good shape.
Luke Fickell would be another to interview. He has experience. He wants the tOSU job which is a good thing. Means that he will need to win to earn it and not want to derail his chances with NCAA potholes.
if we are feeding HC’s to destinations like tOSU, Oklahoma, etc. we are in good shape.
Fickell was the HC at OSU albeit the interim and went 6-7. I’d say Ryan Day has that wrapped up for awhile
Right, because something doesn't work one time means it never will work!
Just off the top of my head, it seems that these guys have proven you wrong: Bob Stoops, Mike Stoops, Dabo Swinney, James Franklin, and Kirby Smart. The schools that hired them when they had only been a coordinator to P5 HC jobs didn't do too badly. They are far from the only ones.
To automatically disqualify someone like you are trying to do is plain dumb.
Dave Clawson is an all star and used to winning with VERY limited resources. Not sure the structure of his buyout after his new deal. Would be a great fit at Missouri.
If I were to guess, I'd think he'd either go for a G5 coach or an SEC retread (like Sumlin).
I agree that coordinators can be successful, but I think he would go in a different direction from an optics stand point. I just don't see him firing one coach with no experience just to bring in another. He would want someone that has proven that he can win.
I agree that coordinators can be successful, but I think he would go in a different direction from an optics stand point. I just don't see him firing one coach with no experience just to bring in another. He would want someone that has proven that he can win.
I know he was the interim there. He was basically a tOSU lifer until he recently left for Cincinnati. I’d also think that Ryan Day has a grip on the job for a while, but things can and do change quickly.
It isn’t out of the question to think that Fickell may be interested in an SEC opportunity in the mean time to either further prepare for tOSU or to have the opportunity to make an SEC program his own in case the tOSU opportunity never materializes.
I just don’t know what kind of coach he is. He’s one Id like to learn more about.
Gus Malzhan would be a no brainer if Auburn is stupid enough to fire him. You would think he'd prefer to stay in the SEC.
A name not mentioned yet: Lance Leipold in Buffalo. Buffalo was an unmitigated disaster of a program before he showed up. In year three, he won 10 games and the MAC Eastern Division Championship, and he was named MAC Coach of the Year. Even this year, one in which his team lost a ton of kids and has had a bunch of QB injuries, they're 4-4 and competing.
Before Buffalo, he was at D3 Wisconsin Whitewater and won 6 NCAA Championships. His teams virtually never lost. He's an offensive guy with a background of being a QB. I think he should at least get an interview. He's not going to be at Buffalo long.
My only issue would be recruiting... I have zero idea how he'd do. But give me a guy who can coach ball and not screw up every game situation he's in. You can teach someone to sell a program.
A name not mentioned yet: Lance Leipold in Buffalo. Buffalo was an unmitigated disaster of a program before he showed up. In year three, he won 10 games and the MAC Eastern Division Championship, and he was named MAC Coach of the Year. Even this year, one in which his team lost a ton of kids and has had a bunch of QB injuries, they're 4-4 and competing.
Before Buffalo, he was at D3 Wisconsin Whitewater and won 6 NCAA Championships. His teams virtually never lost. He's an offensive guy with a background of being a QB. I think he should at least get an interview. He's not going to be at Buffalo long.
My only issue would be recruiting... I have zero idea how he'd do. But give me a guy who can coach ball and not screw up every game situation he's in. You can teach someone to sell a program.
I don't pay as much attention to CFB (outside Mizzou) as I do with CBB, has the shine worn off on Seth Littrell or is he still a name to keep an eye on?
He's in his 5th season now. He's gone:
5-7
2-10
6-6
10-4
They're 4-4 right now.
Go look at his records at WW: He had 5 seasons where he didn't lose a game. I don't care what level of ball that's at; that's hard to do.
Read anyone's opinion who follows the sport intently -- read Vegas' opinion of him -- and he's highly regarded. Buffalo was a disaster before he showed up. No idea if he would do well in the SEC -- coaching hires are all gambles -- but he's a good coach.
Seth Littrell is 100% looking to move. He would have been at KSU this year, but negotiations broke down. His problem this year has been his defense; he may have some of the worst corners in CFB. They can't stop anyone's passing game. So, yeah... I think some of the luster has faded.
Maybe. Maybe he's the next Matt Rhule? Matt Rhule's records at Temple were very, very similar.
Personally, I don't want someone who's never run a program before.
Who are you leaning to?
I'm not leaning to anyone. I freely admit I am in no way qualified to choose a football coach and at this point I don't know enough about any of them to pick one. IF/WHEN we are actually looking for a coach I'm sure there will be some kind of idea of who the realistic candidates are and I assume there will be one or two who will stand out to me.
I made the comment we can do better because I absolutely believe we can and will. As far as comparing him to Matt Ruhle, no two situations are ever the same and to me at least those kinds of comparisons are a real stretch and mostly meaningless. Picking coaches like most things is all about giving yourself the best odds. This guy would in no way give us the best odds.
For someone who admits to not knowing anything, you sure are definitive that a guy who's won a ton in his career would be a bad hire. Oookay.
Mizzou could pay Harsin exactly what they’re paying BO, and it’d be double what he’s making at Boise State. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t just turn dismiss that out of hand.
No offense, but Charlie Strong is an awful HC who benefited from having Teddy Bridgewater at Louisville. He is probably going to be fired this year or next at USF. I've done damn well gambling by fading USF.
