It will almost certainly be free. The cost of providing the vaccine pales in comparison to the cost of the economic loss, not to mention the costs to taxpayers to treat those with COVID-19 who lack insurance.
Could football be postponed until Spring?
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It will almost certainly be free. The cost of providing the vaccine pales in comparison to the cost of the economic loss, not to mention the costs to taxpayers to treat those with COVID-19 who lack insurance.
I have no clue as to how the start of college football will shake out. I'm extremely certain if performed for the "back to normal" crowd ..it won't be so. Nearly empty stands this fall a 25% attendance or less.. Spring FB with 50 % attendance are logical possibilities. Making it conference centric would relieve a lot of issues. It is exceedingly important that games at least in sec are played one or the other.
First, neither me nor my family members are healthcare workers. Secondly, neither me nor my family members are high risk. Surely, the first two rounds will be allocated to those people, as they should be. Lastly, I want to see what the effects are on tens of millions of people before my family and I get it.
I'm not trying to be confrontational here, because I understand what you're saying but I would only pose this question - what happens when a player contracts Covid and dies from it? I don't think the answer is "Well, that has happened before, from kids having irregular heartbeats etc." Those situations are dreadful but, for the most part, entirely unforeseen situations. This is a global pandemic which has claimed over half a million deaths worldwide - it's serious. The financial impact might be dreadful but it's not worth the life of an 18-23 year old - just imagine if that 18-23 year old were your son. If they play a full season in the fall, statistically it becomes a question of when and where, not if. Yes, the vast majority of players will be fine, but a few won't. The lives of those few is, to me, beyond price.
You realize, at some point, people are just going to have to decide for themselves, right? Close the country down again and we will be in a depression by October. Football is a business. Ivy League can shut it down because they don't make money on it. The rest need it. Take your Hydroxychloroquine and get to work.
What adverse effects do you think the vaccine might have?
You get the vaccine not because you’re at risk, FYI.
Several hundred thousand people need to take the vaccine during the trial process. Those people need to be monitored over an extended period of time. There’s no telling what the adverse effects could be. It takes a helluva lot longer to than a year to develop safe vaccines.
COVID-19 has minimal, if any, adverse effect on people like my family and me, so I’m not going to take dosages away from those who need it more than my family and I do.
A) They’re not going to give the general public the vaccine until the necessary healthcare workers/vulnerable population has it.
B) You take the vaccine in order that you don’t pass covid onto other people. Basic herd immunity.
C) I’m really curious what sorts of horrible side effects people think this vaccine might have.
I don't know enough to argue against what @Fauci has stated above and in his first legitimate response to the question, however, @Comrade Trump raises some interesting points.
A) Hence the reason I wouldn't take it until the third round.
B) Contracting the illness will likely have the same effect on my family and me as the vaccine will. Hence the reason I wouldn't take it until the third round.
C) You're assuming smart people never mess up, especially when rushed. The healthcare industry is littered with smart people who mess up. Hence the reason I wouldn't take it until the third round.
I think a lot will depend on what the studies say the side effects of the vaccine are.
If what I've had for the last 8 days is COVID, it is NOT fun. And I say that as a 35 year old who is in no danger of dying from it. But that's just comparing part of the equation. What are the long term risks of getting COVID? What if it's like Chicken Pox, HPV or Hep C and you can have very minimal issues initially/not even know you have it and then 30 years down the road, boom cancer, liver disease, lung failure, etc. That part worries me more than the short-term consequences. I would think a vaccine does not carry those risks and so the trade off would likely be well worth it.
This thread is actually pretty tame by recent standards. And since the reason the Ivy League might make the announcement is directly related to COVID, it logically follows there will be discussion on that subject. There are some valid points being made and most of the loonies, knock on wood, have ignored this thread.
I work in healthcare and can tell you a large number of patients at minimal risk for COVID complications will elect NOT to get the vaccine when first available. The elderly and at risk populations will be a different story.
The Federal government just awarded 1.6 billion to Novavax to aid their third stage trials and assist in mtg of a vaccine
They also invested nearly a half billion with Regeneron for their COVID therapeutic (treatment for serious cases) to allow that drug to be used earlier in treatment protocols
The US has already announced the Regeneron product will be free.
It's been in the news Check the WSJ for a source
The US has allocated 3 billion to assist in vaccine development and can go higher
Keep in mind drug msg will be under pressure to distribute internationally. And some like Moderna are not US companies
By investing the US speeds getting small research doses into a mass mtg process....no small or cheap feat
But the govt is also assuring the US gets what it needs
One more point on vaccines.. There likely will be multiple vaccines as more than one mfg will hit on a product ( there are 8 in development)
I think there is needless concern over taking a vaccine that you won't likely even know who manufactured or what process they followed....it will be like Tylenol or Advil
The firs polio vaccine hit in the early 1950s. Two were used
Polio was not officially extinguished in the US until 1979
Some people wouldn't get kids vaccinated
When a vaccine hits the US has to get enough people vaccinnated to minimize spread
but COVID won't be extinguished for some years because the public won't act uniformly
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