The games Hunter completely missed included Mill Creek who had Caleb Downs and Trajen Greco in the secondary, as well as Bama commit Luke Metz at LB, UNC commit at NG, and multiple G5 commits. Horn took over that game. Mill Creek, North Gwinnett, Mountain View, and Lambert where without Hunter, and Horn carried the Hill in those games' believe he averaged 256 yards passing and 62 yards rushing in those games.
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Don't need the top portal prospect. Not saying they shouldn't go after talent if its available but its not the end all be all. Every Mizzou fan should want Horn to be healthy and win the job. That's best-case scenario.
They do still need a transfer. He needs to be able to push Horn, have experience running an offense and if possible have one year left. They need experience desperately.
If Zollers wins the job then that's probably a really good thing but expecting him to even be in the battle would be stupid.
If it’s Pyne. Better hope the defense and running game are really good. Would also be a huge knock on Drink. He did great with Cook but in year 7 you have to have a guy ready to take over for your 3 year starter at QB.
All the talk says that Drink will look for a top transfer QB and be willing to pay him. If the new guy beats out Horn, then ok. If Horn beats the new guy, then great.. we have a solid backup. Either way, if next year is not going to be a developmental year (and if they are raising prices 50% it better not be) they will need a heck of a QB.
I agree that Z should not be playing next year. Coming off the broken leg and being a true frosh, he should sit and absorb. And if he is the best QB in the bunch, then Drink has some real issues as a coach, developer and recruiter. Then again, we were beat by a true Frosh this weekend if I remember correctly... so there is that.
I agree that Z should not be playing next year. Coming off the broken leg and being a true frosh, he should sit and absorb. And if he is the best QB in the bunch, then Drink has some real issues as a coach, developer and recruiter. Then again, we were beat by a true Frosh this weekend if I remember correctly... so there is that.
According to coach Jackson, non of the pitchers that were drafted this past draft were gonna be drafted, if that tells you anything about his pitching evaluation ability
Next year is what, year 4 for Horn? Not often but sometimes FR QBs come in and start so why is it a seasoned/healthy Horn cannot succeed?
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Last year, I think ksu game, during TO, I saw Horn dancing to the music during TO. He was having fun.
One has to take into account that while Horn had a live arm, his tock in high-school ran up while throwing to Travis Hunter who is odds on favorite for Heisman and can make a case for best reciever in cfb. He had another good recievernon that team and a d1 tight end as I recall. Watching Hunter, you could understand no HS kid could cover him and getting the ball in his neighborhood he would come up with it nearly every time.
Does that translate to starting qb in sec? I don't know but the jury has been out for a long time now.
Does that translate to starting qb in sec? I don't know but the jury has been out for a long time now.
Ethan Davis was his TE, Davis is at Tennessee, and Cam Pedro was the WR, who is now at SEMO.
The two best games I saw Horn play his Senior year, North Gwinnett and Mill Creek. Mill Creek had 5 star Caleb Downs at safety along with 4 star Jaiden Patterson (UNC) at the other safety, they had T Greco (MIZ) at CB, 4 Star Jamal Anderson (Clemson) at LB, Cole Mullins 3 star (Notre Dame) at LB, Their Nose Guard went to UNC and one of their edge rushers went to Syracuse.
That team was one of the best HS defenses I have seen in person. and Horn carried CH in that game.
North Gwinnet had a loaded D as well.
Hunter didnt play in either of those games.
Horn had 312 total yards vs MC throwing 1 TD
He had 309 total yards vs NG throwing 4 TD's
I have really never understood the Virtol on this site when it comes to Horn. Drink's lack of usage of Horn has been questionable at best. Multiple times Drink has had chances to put this kid into a game in 22 and 23 and gave Horn minimal chances.
Last season after declaring that the QB competition, would roll into the first couple of games, Drink gives a handful or plays to Horn in the 4th qtr, when the game was pretty much over at half time, 28-3.
The next game, against Middle Tenn, in the first half, Cook is 6 out of 10 for 57 passing yards and had 1 rushing yard, and Horn has zero snaps?
Cook had a very good season, in 23, and its no knock on Cook, but why not put Horn into some of these games? In 22 why are you putting Jack Abraham into games, that was an absolute waste.
Hope you are correct. I just doubt he starts here but it's cool if he does. Someone here thought he would be drafted pretty high in MLB draft. I was surprised given the tj surgery, but if true that would be hard to pass up.
BTW, it's not vitriol if people don't share opinions on player's future with a team especially after a few years in the program and not seeing the field. I'll be happy as a clam if Horn is successful... or any other player they roll out there .
I think Sam Horn has the potential to be the man and become an absolute star...IF he's all-in and really goes after it.
That's the big question for me...how much he want it and how hard is he willing to work at football?
That's the big question for me...how much he want it and how hard is he willing to work at football?
Just to set the record straight, Horn and Hunter played together for 3 years. During that period Horn threw for 10,300 yards, and Hunter had 3,963 receiving yards. More than 60% of Horn's passes went to someone not named Hunter.
Correct plus pitching involves movement on fast ball, location, and changing pitches/speeds.
Agreed that in HS he was quite the QB. Nobody is arguing that (at least nobody anyone is listening to). The big question is with all that time off, with the injuries, with everything else.. is he still able to bring it? None of us know the answer, I doubt even Drink knows the answer at this point. I mentioned in another thread that I suspect they will work up another package for Horn given his skillsets, so judging him based on what he have seen with Cook and the current program is not really something we should do.
While I think Drink is going to bring in some portal QB... I think most of us can agree that the best situation would be for Horn to legitimately earn QB1 with Z-man in the wings developing. We won't know a thing until Spring at the earliest when practice closes and the portal closes.
I wouldn’t worry about him bringing it, time off, or what package they’ll run. Most QB’s in college don't start until their JR years. The only question now is… Is he good enough? That’ll come down to maturity, reading defenses, anticipation, and accuracy. Luckily for Horn his right arm will make all that easier for him.
You never know. Every year there are higher rated Qbs that don't make it. There are 3 stars or walk ons that do. HS doesn't tell you all you need to know about a QB in D1 football. So much is how bad they want it, how hard they work at it and can they adapt to the speed, the more complex scheme, the hits
and maintain their cool.
You can hope a HS player becomes "the man" for your team, but you will usually be wrong. They take one or two every year, not to mention the portal now for a reason.
and maintain their cool.
You can hope a HS player becomes "the man" for your team, but you will usually be wrong. They take one or two every year, not to mention the portal now for a reason.
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