Leslie Stahl - Has to be a terrible human
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lol we knew she was trash when she denied Trump was spied on by the democrats
"journalism" is all "gotcha" anymore. Let's see how we can reshape the narrative to back my political ideology... it's on both sides, and it is really pathetic.
It is not really so much on both sides. That is the PC thing to say…but that is like saying Kim Anderson and John Wooden were both D1 basketball coaches.
nobody thinks "their side" is fake or influenced or biased... and you analogy is completely off the mark. Kim was incompetent, Wooden cheated.
All blue bloods cheated….but Wooden could also coach. No…I realize that cable
News picks and chooses which news they present. But…not everyone does what Leslie Stahl does…only those only the left do that. I am not talking g about Hannity and Anderson Cooper…they are not reporting news. They are commenting on their version of the news. Leslie Stahl tries to sell herself as a reporter of news. So no…both sides don’t do that…not equally.
I posted it because it was a terrible question to ask a person that was a hostage... and the only reason you ask that question is because you're a Hamas sympathizer....
I'm open to another interpretation, but you should tell me what it is....
Agree that it is a terrible question to ask a recent hostage (though the question itself does have merit and is worth investigating... which they did NOT follow up on)... I would not say that makes her a Hamas sympathizer though. THAT is a huge claim, and not backed by fact, only feeling.
drop your first and last sentences and are making a strong argument. with them, you are a pig.
It is backed by fact because the question was essentially .... maybe you didn't get fed because they didn't have any food.... ? First its asinine.... Second ...what does that have to do with him being THEIR hostage?
@MUValjean tries to hard to split the difference rather than just calling balls and strikes…which is truly “splitting the difference”. She isn’t dumb..but as you said the question is dumb and has nothing to do with nothing. Think about it…well, we know Hamas captured you and held you hostage and they murder women and children…but you think they starved you only because there just wasn’t enough food?
Haha, Yes. Those poor terrorists didn't have any food...so despite committing murder, rape and all the other atrocities..... they didn't feed you because Israel was starving those poor killers
So the narrative is that when Israel cut off food to Gaza that the people there were starving. The belief by some who are sympathetic to Hamas is that the good hearted fighters in Hamas were also without food... either because there was none OR because they were in league with the people (you know, terrorist act like that). So, if that is your belief, or if you are trying to get clarity as a reporter about what conditions were I could see that being a question you would want answered. But, as I said, asking the hostage was bad form. Also... the idea that they would be treating the hostages humanely, or feeding them before the people or the fighters, is terribly naïve. Almost wanting to believe the narrative.
And just because you are asking the question, does not necessarily make you a Hamas supporter.
Incredible tone deaf to ask him that question. Hard to believe Lesley Stahl is Jewish and wasn't more thoughtful about asking that type of question.
Only one side tried to tell you the 2020 election was "stolen" and endorsed stories that were entirely false. Fox willingly paid almost $1B to settle that lawsuit, because they knew that if what they did went to court they would lose more money and probably market share with it.
Now do we want to talk about Covid and Russia and Biden’s mental state and Hunter’s lap top and a plethora of other things. The score is 100 to 1.
What road is that? You don't think Stahl being Jewish would at least give her pause to think about asking a question like that to him?
… or one side had an open mind to the possibility there were election irregularities, and the other side had a closed mind because certain facts didn’t fit their narrative.
"certain facts"? Dude, wake TF up and stop being a rube. Trump made very specific claims of election fraud. He went to court 60+ times and lost. Every. Single. Time.
I have an open mind to hear new facts. I have no open mind toward unsupported conjecture from a guy who has a long history of lying. It's been 5 years. There have still been no facts of material fraud. Just a bunch of liars spinning unsupported stories.
No it's not. A lot of the things you believe to be gospel truth are just more Trumpian lies.
“Trumpian lies” tend to be directionally accurate, but tend to vary from the technical truth due to exaggeration or minimization, as well as the use of “rose colored glasses.”
No. This is how he fools you repeatedly. He builds his lie on a kernel of truth. The rest of it is fabricated. He keeps pointing at the part that is true and ignoring that he can't support his fabrications.
What was his "proof" of his "stolen election" lie? That one qualifies as große Lüge as described by Herr Goebbels himself. This is a known technique. When the truth portion is tiny and the exaggeration is massive to the point of making the truth inconsequential, it's just a straight-up lie.
I will say that for some reason the Dems had a lot more voters in 2020 vs 2024..... Not sure why that is, but it definitely seems like something that should be explained.
DJT 2020 - 74,224,000
DJT 2024 - 77,302,000
Joe 2020 - 81,284,000
Momala 2024 - 75,017,000
proof-something that induces certainty or establishes validity
Since there was never an unbiased investigation of apparent election irregularities, there could be no "induced certainty" or "established validity." Hence, if Trump said he had "proof", that was an exaggeration, though not nearly as large of an exaggeration as anyone who said it was the "most secure election ever". Trump had abundant indications and evidence that indicated that there were multiple election irregularities, but not sufficient to be "proof of a stolen election."
So now you're going to move the goalposts from "election irregularities" to "material fraud?"
This was about the media…not the politicians. Leslie Stahl tries to sale herself as a caller of balls and strikes and a news “reporter”. She is a fake and a phony like all of CBS, NBC…etc
Two reasons:
1) Some obviously switched their vote to Trump
2) Some stayed home because they didn't want Trump and didn't think Dems were doing enough to help them.
But you are doing a typical MAGA tactic of creating an argument by innuendo about something that the data doesn't show. There is only a 2% difference between total votes in 2020 and total votes in 2024. You want to assume bad actions into existence with no proof when there are perfectly plausible explanations that don't involve fraud.
Fox News aligned 100% with Trumpian election lies. So did many other right wing FakeNews outlets. The things you get upset with MSM about are FAR less egregious than that. There is a reason Fox paid Dominion almost $1B. They will pay Smartmatic too. That one is going to trial. They knowingly ran false stories about these companies' software changing votes.
If you have an open mind to facts, open your mind to lifelong Democrat Dr. Robert Epstein's scientific analysis of how Google alone shifted at least 6 million 2020 presidential votes to Biden, and the sum of the votes shifted by all social media in 2020 may have been as high as 15 million votes in favor of Biden.
The data shows plenty... someone should look into why the variance....
Also Dems didn't have open voting by mail or however for 2 months prior to the election in 2024 in all 50 states. you know?
But be mad about Trump and not thoughtful regarding the reason for the disparity in number of votes.
So what you are saying is that Republican efforts to suppress the vote in 2024 were effective?
(See how easy it is when you just assume the answer and don't have to support it?)
If I believe this, I have to then believe that absent meddling by social media that Trump did such a stellar job in his first term that he would have won by more than he did in 2024. That is in spite of an impeachment. That is despite poor management of COVID?
And if you do go down this rabbit hole, the next thing to ask is how many people were manipulated by Fox and the rest of the ecosystem to ignore Trump's failures as a person and a leader?
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