Presidential Pardons
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That’s literally what the Democrat state AGs and local DAs ran on…
Another question, statute of limitation for what?
I’m not defending them. I’m glad Biden’s gone. But be honest. The GOP Congress tried for years to find anything and they had far less (except Hunter) than anything against Trump.
This back and forth just reveals we’re not a serious nation. All public servants should be held to higher standards. That’s why I laugb at the drain the swamp BS.
Biden thought he was being reinaugurated. Then he realized that wasn't happening. He went to work!
Irrelevant other than you go back to the longest statute for any nonviolent crime. The pardons were all nonviolent crimes. With only a couple of exceptions (e.g., non-filing of tax returns means the time never starts) nothing is over 10 years. Only murder, rape, maybe a few other violent crimes are longer or have no limit.
It’s funny how you think there is something in every little detail, instead of being thorough. It’s valid to ask the question, but you all prefer paranoia.
Touch your fingers if you have to, but 1/1/2014 is over 11 years ago.
So? It’s called a cushion.
Since you’re so inquisitive, stil being “asking questions guy” and actually do something. But we know you all prefer to just believe shit or look for the right wing talking points.
Is there anything AG's can do on a state levels..man I hope so? I can't wait to hear what the pardon specifically details. I wonder if it would cover any perjury charge if they were subpoenaed to testify in any future hearing ect... And: ..the Supreme Court's opinion stated that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it... I've said it before and stands to be true once again...Democrats DO NOT think before they do things. Biden doing such type of pardons gives the right to any new President to do the same....They have done such things time after time after time..
You just told his it goes back to 2014 because of the statute of limitations. Either you suck at counting, thinking or were told that and went along with it. Is there a cushion on statute of limitations? You’re the lawyer and I am but a simpleton. If there is no cushion on the statute of limitations, which you just told us is the reason why it goes back more than 11 years, why would it go back more than 11 years?
It's called it goes back to Ukraine. Burisma and Metabiota where the Covid gain of function all began even before moving to China.
The root problem we have is that a malignant narcissist believes he has been wronged and he has been talking for at least a year about revenge and retribution. @dreamlaw was right to ask about Fauci and Milley. Fauci's "crime" is that MAGAs don't like his handling of COVID. Milley's "crime" is that he told China that the US would maintain stability prior to the transition to Biden. Trump called that "treason" (projection much?).
Now if Trump is going to go after people simply because he could not control them, it seems reasonable that pardon power be used. I don't think the Biden family should be pardoned, but Trump is the one who gave them air cover by announcing his own lawless intent on the campaign trail. I don't think any POTUS should be able to pardon family, close business associates, campaign leadership or donors. I also don't think any POTUS should involve himself in decisions about criminal prosecutions - especially about the family of a former POTUS or political foes. That is why in the past the DoJ has been independent.
If you ignore everything that’s happened for years, you make a hell of a point.
If you believe the misinformation spewed out for years, you make a heck of a rebuttal.
This very site that you pay $99 a year for is littered with proof that what you just posted is incorrect.
This is a lot of words to just admit the jig is up and that the justice system is merely a political weapon for whoever is in power.
You mean your postings and citations of BS?
That’s not good for anyone.
Should Liz Cheney be prosecuted for investigating 1/6? That’s basically the BS proposed.
If you truly think the justice system is functional enough to withstand this then do what the left does for asylum seekers. Set up a defense fund and team of legal minds and see those charged through the prosecutions to expose them for the farce that they are.
The dude who ran on locking Hillary up in 2016 and then didn't is supposedly going to change his mind now. You are basically saying "how dare you think Biden's family shouldn't be protected against political prosecution by the convicted felon we politically prosecuted!"
Innocent people that have not been charged do not need pardons. They are a clear admission of guilt and now I’m convinced more then ever that they need to be looked into. Epect whistleblowers to come out of the woodwork with the goods on these people.
Many of you dipshits have been screaming “no one is above the law” for 4 years. I guess you never meant it. Do you not look like total Libtard Hippocrates now.
Liz Cheney is already under investigation for whitness tampering. If she is innocent why not let it play out. There is reported evidence that Fauci obstructed evidence and lied to Trump and Congress then pushed vaccines that he profited from. Give him his day on Court.
Many of you dipshits have been screaming “no one is above the law” for 4 years. I guess you never meant it. Do you not look like total Libtard Hippocrates now.
Liz Cheney is already under investigation for whitness tampering. If she is innocent why not let it play out. There is reported evidence that Fauci obstructed evidence and lied to Trump and Congress then pushed vaccines that he profited from. Give him his day on Court.
No. That’s not a crime. Should she be pardoned for investigating 1/6?
Normally I would, but I know the smell of pure political harassment too. Although I would have enjoyed the Trump meltdown when Cheney is exonerated.
As to the charges that have been brought against Donald Trump over the last four years, I thought the New York cases were pretty stupid, the Georgia cases had some merit, but were brought by idiots, and the DOJ sat on its hands for three years before going after the 1/6 charges. Lots of stupidity all the way around. Let it end.
I appreciate you engaging with me on this.
But if we're not going to bother with reassuring everyone that the justice system is working fine then I think we're cooked.
It can't possibly be working fine when somebody attempts to overturn an election and never faces trial. He was able to obstruct investigations with privilege claims and then force his case to SCOTUS before trial with other privilege claims that he pretty much invented. He repeatedly proclaimed his intention for retribution. He even tried to put Matt effing Gaetz in the lead role in the DoJ. None of that sounds sane, much less working fine.
My hope is that Bondi is going to take the job seriously. We need an independent AG. Barr was an enabler and Garland was weak. Maybe then it gets better.
Why would I not engage with you?
I understand your point. But does either side care what the justice system says on this?
We live in a time where people selectively ingest information. There are people who honestly believe that January 6, 2021 was a few people struggling through the capital because they never saw the video of the riot. And then they actually delude themselves in thinking walking peacefully through the capital was it. Soldiers walked peacefully on Normandy beaches after the Germans were beaten back too.
I don’t know how we get past that. Because the justice system won’t answer it for half the people no matter what. Everybody’s a victim these days and everybody’s out to get my side and belief wins the day.
Here’s another aspect. I’m in favor of. Take away everything that Donald Trump can use to distract from reality. Whether Trump or Biden, we have had eight years of deflections.
Watching the usual suspects make excuses for their party doing everything they’ve screamed that Trump would do for years is too funny. You guys are adorable
This is great. Trump is going to make new positions and grant full immunity to those to do what needs to be done. Elections have consequences and actions set precedent. Trump can do as he pleases and there is no fear of repercussions. Trump will give out pardons to any and everyone who has ever voted R
Carte blanche time bayaaaay! Biden's last days has ensured Trump can and will do as he pleases and I'm here for it
This is going to end up like when Harry Reid invoked the “nuclear option”. It came back to bite the dems on the ass. This “pre-pardoning” will do the same. He also pardoned 37 death row inmates—to hell with what the judicial system says.
Don’t want to hear any bitching from dream or 91 when Trump hands out pardons like a Pez dispenser……..
Don’t want to hear any bitching from dream or 91 when Trump hands out pardons like a Pez dispenser……..
This is the problem with US politics in a nutshell. Now is standard operating procedure because one side did it.
They fvcking hate when I start asking questions.
The fun part will be seeing the difference in coverage when it is done by Republicans
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