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TEN DELAYED THOUGHTS ON THE WEEKEND IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

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Was traveling Sunday and honestly just forgot to post. So here you go:

1. Bama/LSU was a joy to watch. Look, 55-45 can be entertaining. But so can 10-0. That was just a slugfest with NFL athletes all over the field. I mean, if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are. It's like a 1-0 game where the winning team finally scratches across the game winner in the bottom of the 8th on two bloop singles and a sac bunt. And Jalen Hurts probably won't end up with a seat at the Heisman ceremony...but maybe he should.

2. Aggies, meet Karma. Texas A&M was inexplicably ranked fourth in the first college football playoff rankings. That will end tonight after the Ags lost against Mississippi State. Many people are going to sell this as proof that the SEC is incredibly deep, "Look even the 10th best team in our league can beat the second." I think the reality is that it proves the SEC isn't nearly as good as it is in most years. There is one elite team, one pretty good team (LSU) and a couple good, but not great, teams (Auburn, A&M).

3. And then there's the SEC East. Arkansas 31, Florida 10. The Razorbacks might win the East. At least five West teams would (Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss before the Chad Kelly injury). The East is awful. It might not be as bad as the Big 12 North was for a few years...but it's not a whole lot better. The East is now 1-13 against the West.

4. I've seen Nebraska in a lot of 62-3 games...but I've only seen them in two where they had the three. A few years ago, the Huskers lost 70-10 in Lubbock. This past weekend they lost 62-3 to Ohio State. And I've got to admit, while I'm no Urban/Buckeye fan, it was a little bit enjoyable nonetheless (all except the part where Tommy Armstrong looked like he might be very severely injured).

5. The most enjoyable beatdown was in Waco though. TCU 62, Baylor 22. And Gary Patterson would have scored more if he could have. Nice move wearing the all black uniforms to protest Art Briles being fired, Baylor. HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN? Yeah, I know admins at Baylor have said they didn't know and now they're kind of distancing themselves from that supposedly being the reason, but whatever. I ask again HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN? I asked someone from Mizzou yesterday if anybody has sent Mack Rhoades a text and just said, "Seriously? That's where you wanted to leave for?" To their knowledge, no one has.

6. kansas lost its 18th consecutive conference game. Better hope they lose to Iowa State this weekend, Tiger fans. Because I heard yesterday (I haven't done the independent research on this to confirm it) that Mizzou's 11-game bender in SEC play is the second longest in the country. That's not a title you want to hold.

7. We're four games from the biggest game in Apple Cup history. Washington beat Cal 66-27 and has home games against USC and Arizona State. Washington State beat Arizona 69-7 and hosts Cal and then goes to Colorado. If both teams win both, they'll be in the top 15 and Washington will have a CFP bid on the line. Mike Leach should probably be the national coach of the year. Unless Chris Petersen is.

8. The following teams control their own destiny in the CFP

Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, Washington, Ohio State

That's it. Everyone else needs help. Here are the teams that could still make it if they get that help:

Louisville, Auburn, West Virginia (that one's borderline, but they still play Oklahoma and Baylor, so they've got a chance to make some statements).

The following teams COULD get there, but it would take multiple upsets and borderline chaos:

Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Penn State (this one would take mass chaos)

9. My Heisman ballot as of today:

Lamar Jackson
, Louisville
Deshaun Watson, Clemson
Corey Davis, Western Michigan (Davis won't get nearly enough votes, but he has 61 catches for 1011 yards and 14 touchdowns with four games to play before ballots are due and I may very well give him my third place vote)

Other players who merit consideration for a 2nd or 3rd place vote: Jalen Hurts, Alabama/Jabril Peppers, Michigan/Jake Browning, Washington

10. Five games I'll watch this weekend:

South Carolina at Florida, 11 am, CBS
--The Muschamp Bowl. You know the Gamecocks want to win this one for Coach Boom
Kentucky at Tennessee--11 am, SECN--Winner keeps hope alive to go to Atlanta
West Virginia at Texas--11 am, ???--Can't find the channel listing, so maybe I won't watch. And it's not an exciting game. But I like seeing the Longhorns lose
USC at Washington--630 pm, Fox--The Trojans have the talent to shock the Huskies and really shake up the playoff
Michigan at Iowa--7 pm, ABC--Logic says this won't be close. It might not be. Call it a hunch.
 
Was traveling Sunday and honestly just forgot to post. So here you go:


3. And then there's the SEC East. Arkansas 31, Florida 10. The Razorbacks might win the East. At least five West teams would (Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss before the Chad Kelly injury). The East is awful. It might not be as bad as the Big 12 North was for a few years...but it's not a whole lot better. The East is now 1-13 against the West.

You do realize that Arkansas is in the West, right? They should be added to your list of teams that probably would win the East, but they don't actually have a chance of doing it...
 
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Isn't the TCU defense that shut down Baylor what Odom and Cross want to implement at Missouri?
 
I think you misread what Gabe said, badly.

Now I see what he means. The sentence is ambiguous. Saying someone might do something implies there is a possibility. The implied "if they were in the East" isn't clear.
 
Agree with #4 and #6. Love seeing the Nubs lose and I am keeping my fingers crossed that the Cyclones win this weekend!!
 
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i think uscarolina may beat uf... gators have the purdue flunky back at qb... you know muschamp wants it... as an anti gator in gator country nothing could be more amusing than muschamp winning in the swamp as a cock
 
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Gave we pay good money to have this posted way earlier in the week. Weak sauce.


Also, great job on the radio in STL!
 
Plenty of time left for Washington to stub their toe and Ohio State to eventually find their way back in the playoff. We all know it's happening.
 
"1. Bama/LSU was a joy to watch. Look, 55-45 can be entertaining. But so can 10-0. That was just a slugfest with NFL athletes all over the field. I mean, if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are. It's like a 1-0 game where the winning team finally scratches across the game winner in the bottom of the 8th on two bloop singles and a sac bunt. And Jalen Hurts probably won't end up with a seat at the Heisman ceremony...but maybe he should."

"...if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are."
It is a not a question of "liking/not liking"! I see it more a question of enjoyment, Most fans prefer a tightly contest game and I do too. However, I have to say that as a fan when I have "no dog in the fight" I do not enjoy a pure defensive struggle with little offense.
I have played football, basketball and baseball/softball for a lot of years. I like games where both teams play solidly on both sides of the ball. That could mean a high score or a lower score. I just enjoy the high scoring one more. To say that I am not a fan or know what I am watching is wrong.

Before the 3 pt shot was added I remember MU played a game with a final score in the low 40s. Norms style back then often was to force the other team's play. In this game he tried to make the opposition play defense because I assume he didn't think they were that good at it and they may not have been. Twice we had ball in a possession for around 7 minutes. The other team just stood pack in around the rim. We didn't play offense and they didn't play defense. A real barn burner. A low scoring baseball game for both sides was never fun for me unless I was one of the two pitchers, but I did know what was going on. I prefer Rugby over Soccer because I see those more as two opposites. Soccer more defense, Rugby more offense. I never had the chance to play either, but I think I would have loved Rugby.

I don't believe that a 55-45 game of football means horrible defense played by two teams even though it often does. I enjoyed watching our SEC title game against Auburn even though I didn't think either team did play perfect defensive. It was a fun game to watch and I did have "a dog in the fight."
 
"1. Bama/LSU was a joy to watch. Look, 55-45 can be entertaining. But so can 10-0. That was just a slugfest with NFL athletes all over the field. I mean, if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are. It's like a 1-0 game where the winning team finally scratches across the game winner in the bottom of the 8th on two bloop singles and a sac bunt. And Jalen Hurts probably won't end up with a seat at the Heisman ceremony...but maybe he should."

"...if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are."
It is a not a question of "liking/not liking"! I see it more a question of enjoyment, Most fans prefer a tightly contest game and I do too. However, I have to say that as a fan when I have "no dog in the fight" I do not enjoy a pure defensive struggle with little offense.
I have played football, basketball and baseball/softball for a lot of years. I like games where both teams play solidly on both sides of the ball. That could mean a high score or a lower score. I just enjoy the high scoring one more. To say that I am not a fan or know what I am watching is wrong.

Before the 3 pt shot was added I remember MU played a game with a final score in the low 40s. Norms style back then often was to force the other team's play. In this game he tried to make the opposition play defense because I assume he didn't think they were that good at it and they may not have been. Twice we had ball in a possession for around 7 minutes. The other team just stood pack in around the rim. We didn't play offense and they didn't play defense. A real barn burner. A low scoring baseball game for both sides was never fun for me unless I was one of the two pitchers, but I did know what was going on. I prefer Rugby over Soccer because I see those more as two opposites. Soccer more defense, Rugby more offense. I never had the chance to play either, but I think I would have loved Rugby.

I don't believe that a 55-45 game of football means horrible defense played by two teams even though it often does. I enjoyed watching our SEC title game against Auburn even though I didn't think either team did play perfect defensive. It was a fun game to watch and I did have "a dog in the fight."

I'm with Gabe on this one. Alabama-LSU was fun to watch. I enjoyed it.
 
I like to see Michigan in there. Whether you like Harbaugh or not the guy is just a hell of coach. To do what he has in a year in half at Michigan is nothing short of sensational.
 
I like to see Michigan in there. Whether you like Harbaugh or not the guy is just a hell of coach. To do what he has in a year in half at Michigan is nothing short of sensational.
I agree.

For one reason or another, I always liked Michigan when I was younger. I liked Lloyd Carr and really enjoyed watching a lot of the players that went through that program.

I can't stand Harbaugh, but he's an outstanding coach -- one of the best in the business.

I've always strongly disliked OSU, but I think CFB is better when Michigan/OSU are doing well.
 
I agree.

For one reason or another, I always liked Michigan when I was younger. I liked Lloyd Carr and really enjoyed watching a lot of the players that went through that program.

I can't stand Harbaugh, but he's an outstanding coach -- one of the best in the business.

I've always strongly disliked OSU, but I think CFB is better when Michigan/OSU are doing well.
I agree with all of this.
 
West Virginia at Texas--11 am, ???--Can't find the channel listing, so maybe I won't watch. And it's not an exciting game. But I like seeing the Longhorns lose


The Texas game is on FS1 according to the Texas website.
 
West Virginia at Texas--11 am, ???--Can't find the channel listing, so maybe I won't watch. And it's not an exciting game. But I like seeing the Longhorns lose


The Texas game is on FS1 according to the Texas website.
I thought he made that statement because it was on "THAT" other channel
 
However, I have to say that as a fan when I have "no dog in the fight" I do not enjoy a pure defensive struggle with little offense.

I don't believe that a 55-45 game of football means horrible defense played by two teams even though it often does.

And now an 'opinion' from a fan-atic. I LOVE close low scoring defensive tussles in all sports. These are where pressure, tension, and the challenges of competition are right in your face.

Also, high scores are indicative of lousy defense as you so adroitly and skillfully straddle the fence with feet planted firmly in mid-air....
 
I was at the Alabama - LSU game. What an atmosphere! The fans were into on ever play of the game, and when they get that "Louisiana Saturday Night" song going, it is just electric. A bit jealous of what these other programs have for a game day experience in relation to CoMO.
 
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i think uscarolina may beat uf... gators have the purdue flunky back at qb... you know muschamp wants it... as an anti gator in gator country nothing could be more amusing than muschamp winning in the swamp as a cock

Yeah, well let's see how boy wonder does against that Fla defense. Not happening.
 
Was traveling Sunday and honestly just forgot to post. So here you go:

1. Bama/LSU was a joy to watch. Look, 55-45 can be entertaining. But so can 10-0. That was just a slugfest with NFL athletes all over the field. I mean, if you didn't like watching that, I question how big a football fan you are. It's like a 1-0 game where the winning team finally scratches across the game winner in the bottom of the 8th on two bloop singles and a sac bunt. And Jalen Hurts probably won't end up with a seat at the Heisman ceremony...but maybe he should.

2. Aggies, meet Karma. Texas A&M was inexplicably ranked fourth in the first college football playoff rankings. That will end tonight after the Ags lost against Mississippi State. Many people are going to sell this as proof that the SEC is incredibly deep, "Look even the 10th best team in our league can beat the second." I think the reality is that it proves the SEC isn't nearly as good as it is in most years. There is one elite team, one pretty good team (LSU) and a couple good, but not great, teams (Auburn, A&M).

3. And then there's the SEC East. Arkansas 31, Florida 10. The Razorbacks might win the East. At least five West teams would (Bama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss before the Chad Kelly injury). The East is awful. It might not be as bad as the Big 12 North was for a few years...but it's not a whole lot better. The East is now 1-13 against the West.

4. I've seen Nebraska in a lot of 62-3 games...but I've only seen them in two where they had the three. A few years ago, the Huskers lost 70-10 in Lubbock. This past weekend they lost 62-3 to Ohio State. And I've got to admit, while I'm no Urban/Buckeye fan, it was a little bit enjoyable nonetheless (all except the part where Tommy Armstrong looked like he might be very severely injured).

5. The most enjoyable beatdown was in Waco though. TCU 62, Baylor 22. And Gary Patterson would have scored more if he could have. Nice move wearing the all black uniforms to protest Art Briles being fired, Baylor. HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN? Yeah, I know admins at Baylor have said they didn't know and now they're kind of distancing themselves from that supposedly being the reason, but whatever. I ask again HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN? I asked someone from Mizzou yesterday if anybody has sent Mack Rhoades a text and just said, "Seriously? That's where you wanted to leave for?" To their knowledge, no one has.

6. kansas lost its 18th consecutive conference game. Better hope they lose to Iowa State this weekend, Tiger fans. Because I heard yesterday (I haven't done the independent research on this to confirm it) that Mizzou's 11-game bender in SEC play is the second longest in the country. That's not a title you want to hold.

7. We're four games from the biggest game in Apple Cup history. Washington beat Cal 66-27 and has home games against USC and Arizona State. Washington State beat Arizona 69-7 and hosts Cal and then goes to Colorado. If both teams win both, they'll be in the top 15 and Washington will have a CFP bid on the line. Mike Leach should probably be the national coach of the year. Unless Chris Petersen is.

8. The following teams control their own destiny in the CFP

Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, Washington, Ohio State

That's it. Everyone else needs help. Here are the teams that could still make it if they get that help:

Louisville, Auburn, West Virginia (that one's borderline, but they still play Oklahoma and Baylor, so they've got a chance to make some statements).

The following teams COULD get there, but it would take multiple upsets and borderline chaos:

Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Penn State (this one would take mass chaos)

9. My Heisman ballot as of today:

Lamar Jackson
, Louisville
Deshaun Watson, Clemson
Corey Davis, Western Michigan (Davis won't get nearly enough votes, but he has 61 catches for 1011 yards and 14 touchdowns with four games to play before ballots are due and I may very well give him my third place vote)

Other players who merit consideration for a 2nd or 3rd place vote: Jalen Hurts, Alabama/Jabril Peppers, Michigan/Jake Browning, Washington

10. Five games I'll watch this weekend:

South Carolina at Florida, 11 am, CBS
--The Muschamp Bowl. You know the Gamecocks want to win this one for Coach Boom
Kentucky at Tennessee--11 am, SECN--Winner keeps hope alive to go to Atlanta
West Virginia at Texas--11 am, ???--Can't find the channel listing, so maybe I won't watch. And it's not an exciting game. But I like seeing the Longhorns lose
USC at Washington--630 pm, Fox--The Trojans have the talent to shock the Huskies and really shake up the playoff
Michigan at Iowa--7 pm, ABC--Logic says this won't be close. It might not be. Call it a hunch.
Well done...once again.
 
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