Did you notice Denmon's technique on the drive to the basket? He initiates the contact! That was a classic Derrick Chievous move. Today, our young guys get stuffed, swatted and/or hammered when going to the basket.
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EJ Gaines holding Mike Evans to four catches for eight yards to help clinch the SEC East isn’t talked about enough. One of the most impressive performances I’ve ever seen out of a Mizzou football player.
EJ Gaines holding Mike Evans to four catches for eight yards to help clinch the SEC East isn’t talked about enough. One of the most impressive performances I’ve ever seen out of a Mizzou football player.
Gabe where would you put Willie Smith game against Michigan if they had won?
Smart Baseball investment? - I see several posting the same or similar questions regarding the baseball team. What would a smart investment in being competitive in baseball look like?
My opinion; a major upgrade to the baseball facility, beyond full turf, would be a waste. That's lipstick on a pig. Win games and people will come. When you fill this stadium then we can talk about upgrading the experience.
Aside from stadium, where does Missouri's investment in coaches, recruiting, training facilities etc. line up? those seems like reasonable places that could impact the product on the field.
Otherwise, is it just a matter of paying players NIL? If that is it, it seems pretty simple and realistic to address. I wouldn't take a whole lot to have a big impact. I realize it is easier said than done but if the leadership could convince a few influential people to make a modest investment we could see a change pretty quickly. Seems like this is or should be considered a major part of the coaching job description these days.
If we can compete in softball, in the toughest conference, we should be able to compete (or at least be .500) in baseball.
My opinion; a major upgrade to the baseball facility, beyond full turf, would be a waste. That's lipstick on a pig. Win games and people will come. When you fill this stadium then we can talk about upgrading the experience.
Aside from stadium, where does Missouri's investment in coaches, recruiting, training facilities etc. line up? those seems like reasonable places that could impact the product on the field.
Otherwise, is it just a matter of paying players NIL? If that is it, it seems pretty simple and realistic to address. I wouldn't take a whole lot to have a big impact. I realize it is easier said than done but if the leadership could convince a few influential people to make a modest investment we could see a change pretty quickly. Seems like this is or should be considered a major part of the coaching job description these days.
If we can compete in softball, in the toughest conference, we should be able to compete (or at least be .500) in baseball.
Willie Smith v Michigan predated Gabe's window didn't it?
Might argue against the ku game not being big, all those are big!
Might argue against the ku game not being big, all those are big!
Softball and baseball are different sports. As someone said, we have two MLB teams not that far away. One of them draws more 3M fans per year. None of the other SEC schools have a similar situation. They either don't have MLB teams or the teams don't draw big crowds and/or they have a much larger population base nearby.
Certainly, a better stadium would help some, though there needs to be donors. I don't recall the amount, but the new softball stadium happened because of one or more donors.
While Krings' numbers were a season high (she hit 10 K v. Liberty), her career high was a perfect game against North Texas last April in which she had 17 K. Regardless, what she did was astonishing and even better in a win-or-go-home game. Really awesome to watch. Gutsy performance.
I totally get the two MLB teams and I am as much a Cardinal fan as anyone. One big key is for a lot of people, especially with family, you can't afford to go to an MLB game more than a couple times a year.
I and my two son's who play baseball, watch a lot of SEC baseball because it is fun to watch. Going to a weekend series against some of the best teams in the nation should be a big deal. Anyone who would not enjoy that is not really into watching baseball, IMO. That is what needs to be pushed and put a team on the field that can compete. I mean, we swept Florida this year and it seems no one even noticed.
I agree and disagree. Baseball in STL and KC may take away from potential crowds.
However, there are plenty of baseball fans in central Missouri to put together a decent crowd on a regular basis. look at the number of baseball organizations and packed tournaments every weekend. Baseball fandom is strong.
I attended a handful of games this year and have for the past several years. The fact is the product on the field is BAD. (From my viewing experience we are way behind in serval areas.). I will continue to argue that if the product was good people would come. I'd rather hear what we can to to have a better product than whine about geography.
I have often wondered if we got serious enough about football and got really good if the increase in revenue from football and fan interest would give the other sports a boost? If we generate enough money from football and get more donors involved could we plug some of that money and fan support into sports like baseball to take the next step? There is nothing that says you have to just be good at one thing.
Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical that the Cardinals and Royals prevent Mizzou from drawing fan interest. You only need 3-5k people to have really good college baseball attendance.
Here's why I've never gotten into college baseball: The best players often don't play it. College is full of guys who are really good, but often not good enough to get drafted high out of high school. It's why I don't watch the XFL or junior college basketball or whatever. It's not elite talent. I like baseball. I don't really like college baseball. If you tell me I can spend my money to go to two MLB games or ten SEC games, it's not even a conversation which I'd rather do. It doesn't mean people don't like baseball. It's a different sport (the metal bats are a part of it too). I generally don't think college baseball is a very well played game. I understand that there are people who like it and for those that do, great. But I agree with people saying Mizzou's biggest challenge is being located in a state with two teams that play baseball at a much higher level.
I am a diehard Cardinals fan. When I was a kid I was a diehard Dodgers fan. I have been to games for both. I lived in Columbia for 29 years and NEVER attended a Mizzou baseball game.
Just saying.
M-I-Z!!!
Just saying.
M-I-Z!!!
They're saying there's no body cam footage but I have a source in Louisville who says differently.
The text I got on Friday afternoon after the police report came out basically said the review board had already looked at the footage and was going to recommend the arresting officer be suspended, the charges be dropped and the Mayor will make sure the footage disappears because it was so embarrassing for the city.
I was obviously skeptical but Saturday afternoon the mayor came out and said the body camera footage didn't exist so seems to be legit.
Also told me the "vehicular assault" was the cop literally jumping on the hood of Scotties car and the dumbass slipped and fell off because it had been raining.
As a life long Cardinals fan it hurts to say, I'm not sure the product to the east is much better.
As a father of a 9 year old baseball player, its an affordable way to let him experience what baseball looks like at the next level, in person. That's the main reason we go.
I generally don't care for women's college basketball. However, when Mizzou was good I went to a few games. People will make their own choices but I still believe Mizzou fans have shown they will support a good product. We fill the arena for gymnastics and I would venture to guess most of those fans aren't collegiate gymnastics fans.
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Congrats to your dad. My youth consisted waking up, going into my Dad's bathroom to find the folded sports page and looking for the DeArmond article..,.. i know poetry
My favorite Mike DeArmond story (not the best story, I know, but one that stuck with me):
I was at KOMU. It's 1999. News had started to filter out that Justin Gage (a true freshman at the time) might play on the basketball team in addition to football. It was mid-season, but as a backup true freshman, he hadn't really been interviewed. At the weekly press availability, Gage has a fairly sizeable gaggle. Mike totally dominates the questioning--not in an overbearing fashion, but if you worked that beat, you knew Mike was going to get the first question and ask what he needed to.
He asks probably 80%-90% (maybe 100%) of the questions. Gage answers every question dutifully but you can tell he's not used to it (though he had some experience at Jeff City).
You could tell Mike was trying to stress test Gage. He asks probably 80%-90% (maybe 100%) of the questions. All about basketball. Gage answers every question dutifully but you can tell he's not used to it (though had some experience at Jeff City). You could tell Mike was trying to stress test Gage a little to see if he'll keep the calm demeanor (which Justin does). Mike is running out of substantive questions and asks something along the lines of "people don't know much about you; so, what are your dislikes??" Gage gets a big grin and says "Questions about basketball during the football season."
The gaggle breaks shortly thereafter, Mike turns away with a wry smile on his face and says to no one in particular "that was fun."
I was at KOMU. It's 1999. News had started to filter out that Justin Gage (a true freshman at the time) might play on the basketball team in addition to football. It was mid-season, but as a backup true freshman, he hadn't really been interviewed. At the weekly press availability, Gage has a fairly sizeable gaggle. Mike totally dominates the questioning--not in an overbearing fashion, but if you worked that beat, you knew Mike was going to get the first question and ask what he needed to.
He asks probably 80%-90% (maybe 100%) of the questions. Gage answers every question dutifully but you can tell he's not used to it (though he had some experience at Jeff City).
You could tell Mike was trying to stress test Gage. He asks probably 80%-90% (maybe 100%) of the questions. All about basketball. Gage answers every question dutifully but you can tell he's not used to it (though had some experience at Jeff City). You could tell Mike was trying to stress test Gage a little to see if he'll keep the calm demeanor (which Justin does). Mike is running out of substantive questions and asks something along the lines of "people don't know much about you; so, what are your dislikes??" Gage gets a big grin and says "Questions about basketball during the football season."
The gaggle breaks shortly thereafter, Mike turns away with a wry smile on his face and says to no one in particular "that was fun."
I gotta admit Gabe, you are startin to grow on me. I will be 85 Sat. and I went to my first Mizzou fb game in 1956, I think Tony Scardino was the QB, not positive tho. Ive seen the good, the bad and the ugly. A bunch of us came down from Kirksville for the KU game, sat on the M hill and was devastated when Hadl, Coan and McClintock did a number my heroes. Got to meet Danny Larose and Dan Devine But enough about me, I have nothing but good things to say about PM and the way you scribe your thoughts. I just wish I could have met you sometime along the way, over 70 yrs. Keep up the good work kid and I hope I get to see the 2024 campaigns, they be special.
I’d guess 90% (or “somewhere about”) is too high
That’s probably about right for a 10-2 SEC team in general under the current alignment - but Mizzou’s schedule next year makes its odds of being one of the 10% “exceptions” a lot higher
For simplicity, let’s assume the 12-team CFP breakdown is 4 from SEC, 4 from B1G and 4 from ACC/B12/G5 & ND combined (pretty plausible I think)
In SEC, we’d be behind the 2 teams in SEC Championship game. And based on SOS would almost certainly be behind any additional 2-loss teams (unless we beat them H2H).
If there are two other 2-loss teams we didn’t play (or beat us) we’re probably screwed up front
Tricky part is a few potential 3-loss teams. Assume our 2-losses come from the 3 games vs Bama, OU & A&M - there’s a very good chance any of those three would be ahead of Mizzou with 3 losses based on SOS & beating us H2H (e.g. 3-loss LSU would’ve been ahead of us last year if you swapped BC for KState on our non-con schedule and a road loss to a “good” Bama or OU team vs close road loss to #1 team in the country). And a few teams we don’t play would have a decent chance of being ahead of us despite 3-losses (e.g. Texas, with losses to UGA & Michigan)
And overall, it’s pretty plausible we could go 10-2 without a “good” win, if OU or A&M (or theoretically Bama) falter. And it’s really hard to see any other games on our schedule being perceived as particularly “good” wins (e,g. Auburn or SC could be better than expected … and still struggle to win 6-7 games
its hard to gauge given the new wave of realignment & consolidation, but I’d bet our CFP odds at 10-2 are closer to 50% 🤷🏻♂️
The investment to be a top NCAA Softball team can't be more than 25% of what it takes to be competitive in baseball.
This is a false comparison.
This is a false comparison.
Huge congratulations to your father! I read and followed him his entire MU career, and he was instrumental in creating me to be the fanatical Tiger fan I am today. Secondly, Anthony Peeler’s 42 point performance at ku is one of my fondest big game performances!
Been out for a day before the writing. Nice job @GabeD mailing it in. Well I guess it’s isn’t called”Ten well thought out thoughts”
And before the people who are so fat they have to get the extension belt for airplanes respond it’s a joke. Blue font
I find that fat people have a sense of humor, to get through life as a "person of size" requires it... it's the "CrossFit cult" and the "super in shape because I monitor every carb that crosses my lips crazies" that lose focus and can't see the humor in life.
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The fats love some dramaI find that fat people have a sense of humor, to get through life as a "person of size" requires it... it's the "CrossFit cult" and the "super in shape because I monitor every carb that crosses my lips crazies" that lose focus and can't see the humor in life.
Blue font?
If I watched my diet and did all that healthy stuff, would I live longer? Or would it just seem like it?
When I talk with people 80 and above, it is with the rare exception that they don't tell me how hard it is and how they are constantly fighting their health. There is a good debate to be had between quantity of life and quality of life.
By this logic, no one would watch any college sports. Even in basketball and football most of the ones playing the game will never go pro, so why watch them? OH YEA! because we love our school and unlike pro sports we can always root for the jersey. It is harder with the transfers but it at least used to be guys you could watch for 3-4 years.
What he is saying about baseball is that Columbia is between two major metropolitan areas that have baseball teams. So Mizzou is not going to get baseball fans driving hours to see a college game when they can watch a pro game.
I think the same applies to basketball. There are no basketball outlets other than Mizzou basketball so you can get fans from each city.
Football is different. College football sells itself, especially when you are good.
But, my point is, I see what gabe is saying and I agree.
I think the same applies to basketball. There are no basketball outlets other than Mizzou basketball so you can get fans from each city.
Football is different. College football sells itself, especially when you are good.
But, my point is, I see what gabe is saying and I agree.
I hope you're right. IMO that should be about the easiest thing to fix. As I, said I assume donor recruitment and retention should be on the coaches' job descriptions these days.
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