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NEW STORY TEN THOUGHTS FOR MONDAY MORNING

That got me to thinking about Mizzou Athletics as a whole. I know some people, even on here, couldn't care less about a conference title in anything besides football or men's hoops. I'd be so excited for one title. In anything in the SEC. Wrestling has won tons but none in the SEC, making it feel watered down and worth less than others would be. Even a volleyball or softball conference title would be so exciting for me.
Would you take Arkansas' current situation or Mizzou's?
 
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What bowl games are dying out? And the NIT really isn't either. Will there be some P6 teams who pass on it? Sure. But there will also be those who don't and plenty of schools from non-power conferences who want a chance to play in the postseason.
I was alluding to what Gabe was saying regarding the eventual downward spiral of non/playoff bowl games. I think the lack of player/coach interest in these games is obviously decreasing quickly. Yeah folks are still watching, but the folks involved don’t really give 2 craps about eating a giant pop tart in front of 20k people on New Year’s Day.
 
CYA Board of Curators stupidity. If I'm wrong, speak up.
Re: NIT -A long time ago it was a very big deal ( I think when NCAA was a 16 team tournament). I've thought for years it should be a huge 16 team pre season tournament featuring as many top 20 teams from various polls as it could gather. What a way to kick off the season.
 
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CYA Board of Curators stupidity. If I'm wrong, speak up.
Re: NIT -A long time ago it was a very big deal ( I think when NCAA was a 16 team tournament). I've thought for years it should be a huge 16 team pre season tournament featuring as many top 20 teams from various polls as it could gather. What a way to kick off the season.
Is the preseason NIT not a thing anymore?
 
7) Get ready, because the same thing's going to happen in football. Twelve teams are going to make the playoff for the next two years. After that, it will be 14. You think the other 120 care if they play in a meaningless game in hopes their coach can get Mayo dumped on them or the players can get a $500 gift card to Academy Sports? No way.

The only thing that's going to matter in football going forward is the playoff. Everybody's going to do everything they can to be a part of it. If they aren't, the players aren't going to want to play. And soon enough, you're going to see teams saying "Nah, we're good, we don't need 12 practices to spend Christmas week in Houston to play another 7-5 team in the Texas Bowl."

It's coming. Maybe not for everybody. Maybe not immediately. But it's coming.

There is a solution to this, and it is NIL.

For example, the Gator Bowl can offer players money. For $5K each player, it costs around $850K for both teams. For the lower tier bowls, you can offer $1K each and those kids at lower tier schools will go.

With that said, these bowls won't want bowl tie ins. and the teams with biggest names (not Mizzou) will get the most money.

For example, what about Arrowhead offering Nebraska v. Mizzou for a bowl game December 30th. In the past, these stadiums would offer $1M for a game like that. That would give each player $5K. Maybe Luther Burden doesn't jump at $5K. But a lot of players would.
 
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The NIT is dead. It's not like it's meant anything for a long time now, but teams still usually played in it. Not anymore. The players don't want to. They want to see how much they can get paid and where they'll play next season. The coaches have way bigger fish to fry.
This is why as @drewking0222 as well as Coach Gates will continue to push the NCAA tournament will be expanded soon.
 
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8) It's officially championship season for the other winter sports too. Missouri has no more basketball games left to play, but wrestling and gymnastics are ongoing. The NCAA Wrestling Championships are Thursday through Saturday in Kansas City. There was a time when many believed Missouri had an excellent shot at the podium. That no longer seems likely. They just finished fourth in their own conference. Mizzou has qualified a wrestler in all ten weight classes. But only half of them are seeded in the top half of their weight class and Keegan O'Toole is the only individual seeded in the top five. The main intrigue is whether O'Toole can win an individual title. The Tigers' team chances at a major run don't seem very good.

Gymnastics put together its best performance of the season on Sunday, winning a quad meet at Illinois with a season-best 197.6 score. The Tigers were led by a perfect ten from Jocelyn Moore on the floor exercise, the first Tiger ever to hit that mark on the floor. They're currently ranked 13th in the country and will compete in the afternoon session of the SEC Championships this weekend with No. 12 Arkansas, No. 14 Auburn and No. 18 Georgia. The session starts at 2:30 Saturday and can be seen on the SEC Network.

9) It was a weekend to forget on the diamond. Missouri baseball lost three games to Arkansas by a combined score of 26-1. The Razorbacks are No. 1 in the country and showed why. The Tigers are now 9-11 on the season. They'll face Kansas at Kauffman Stadium on Tuesday night and host Kentucky this weekend.

The softball team suffered more losses this weekend than in its first 22 games combined. Mizzou was swept by Tennessee in Knoxville 9-0, 8-2, 4-0. You can forgive them a bad weekend. You'd liked to have gotten out of town with one win, but it didn't happen. After facing Kansas in Lawrence on Wednesday, the rebound effort starts with a home series against LSU this weekend. Friday's game starts at 5.

10) This week's reading recommendations:

Go Long: Greg Castillo, Trent McDuffie and the inner workings of a Chiefs dynasty
The Guardian: 'We wanted to invade media': The hippies, nerds and Hollywood pros who brought The Simpsons to life
Wall Street Journal: Rick Fierro fought in America's war on terror. Then terror found him at home.
The American Scholar: Tales from an attic
The Athletic: The gap year road trip that healed an Ivy League hoops star
GQ: Inside the glorious afterlife of Roger Federer
Texas Monthly: How Jesse Plemons came to star in, well, pretty much everything
Cosmopolitan: What's the cost of a childhood turned into content?
Wall Street Journal: A mistake in a Tesla and a panicked final call: The death of Angela Chao
The Athletic: How did Juwan Howard and Michigan basketball fall so far?
No Laying Up: Hey, Golf, more of this please
The Athletic: The PGA Tour had its chance. Now it's Scottie Scheffler's turn to dominate.
Some things never change, Mizzou can't get out of the way of MIzzou.
 
I was alluding to what Gabe was saying regarding the eventual downward spiral of non/playoff bowl games. I think the lack of player/coach interest in these games is obviously decreasing quickly. Yeah folks are still watching, but the folks involved don’t really give 2 craps about eating a giant pop tart in front of 20k people on New Year’s Day.
I don't really think we've seen that much evidence re: bowl season. Maybe that changes, but honestly I think they'll just end up moving bowl season up (especially with the playoff starting Dec. 20) and the portal a little later to combat the opt-outs.

As for the NIT, I don't see this as much evidence that teams don't care. Here's who is playing this year:

Seton Hall, Wake Forest, Indiana State, Villanova, SMU, North Texas, LSU, Boston College, Providence, UNLV, Princeton, Xavier, Georgia, Richmond, Virginia Tech, Cornell, Ohio State, Minnesota, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Bradley, San Francisco, Cincinnati, South Florida, UCF, Kansas State, Iowa, UC Irvine, and Utah.
 
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I don't really think we've seen that much evidence re: bowl season. Maybe that changes, but honestly I think they'll just end up moving bowl season up (especially with the playoff starting Dec. 20) and the portal a little later to combat the opt-outs.

As for the NIT, I don't see this as much evidence that teams don't care. Here's who is playing this year:

Seton Hall, Wake Forest, Indiana State, Villanova, SMU, North Texas, LSU, Boston College, Providence, UNLV, Princeton, Xavier, Georgia, Richmond, Virginia Tech, Cornell, Ohio State, Minnesota, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Bradley, San Francisco, Cincinnati, South Florida, UCF, Kansas State, Iowa, UC Irvine, and Utah.
You don’t think there’s less interest in bowl games with the opt outs? Man…it’s coming (and here). There’s a billion bowl games and the real good kids aren’t playing in them
 
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There are still people on this board that will defend the BOC and the oversight committee. Truly amazing.
Some of us are going to actually wait and see exactly what it is they are doing--I totally get the skepticism--I really do as there is a track record of too much meddling, but at the sametime, the University has clearly sent millions of dollars over to the AD (I personally think its a great investment and hope they continue to do it) and anybody who thinks no oversight is required given the total change that is happening in college sports also isn't realistic. Again, get the skepticism and it might turn out just the way you say/think, but you certainly aren't against some oversight are you? Even if you are against it, you understand why it might be needed for the required board of a public university to be able to demonstrate some direct oversight over that kind of spending?
 
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You don’t think there’s less interest in bowl games with the opt outs? Man…it’s coming (and here). There’s a billion bowl games and the real good kids aren’t playing in them
Enough to not play the games? Absolutely not. If players decide to opt out, there's young guys that fans wanna see (i.e. Avery Johnson when Will Howard transferred).
 
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Some of us are going to actually wait and see exactly what it is they are doing--I totally get the skepticism--I really do as there is a track record of too much meddling, but at the sametime, the University has clearly sent millions of dollars over to the AD (I personally think its a great investment and hope they continue to do it) and anybody who thinks no oversight is required given the total change that is happening in college sports also isn't realistic. Again, get the skepticism and it might turn out just the way you say/think, but you certainly aren't against some oversight are you? Even if you are against it, you understand why it might be needed for the required board of a public university to be able to demonstrate some direct oversight over that kind of spending?
I have zero issues with the concept. The execution and people involved is a totally different story.
 
Enough to not play the games? Absolutely not. If players decide to opt out, there's young guys that fans wanna see (i.e. Avery Johnson when Will Howard transferred).
I’m not saying that fans aren’t watching or going to watch, there’s not much on that time of year anyway. I’m just saying the quality sucks and is watered down and the players /coaches don’t care. But people will still watch and networks will make cash off the Sasparilla Bowls etc
 
@GabeD if Jevon doesnt sign in the next couple of hours do you think there is reason to w0rRy?
 
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Hey, remember that Huron consulting firm that MIZZOU dropped $540K on to "propel us to the top of collegiate athletics?” How about we get some money back? Or is stripping the AD down and putting all their hopes on Eli (and 61-yard FG's going thru the uprights) part of their master plan of excellence?

Seriously, how about tying some results to some of these investments?
 
regardless...what a mess.

Like I've tried to stress. We don't KNOW it's a mess. We just know nothing. And I think there should be some level of accountability and having to answer questions (even with "no comment") about the way things went down. My stance isn't to say it's hopeless or to blame anyone in particular (I've said over and over I think there was blame on both sides in all likelihood). I just don't like the bunker mentality, we don't ever talk about what we do approach
 
There’s actually a large part of me that’s glad the NIT and all these BS Bowl Games are dying out. The media
plus the local chamber of commerce/hospitality businesses drove them for $$$ and saturated the market (particularly football). “Everyone gets a trophy!”
Agree but slightly modified it for you.

Shreveport likes to hear about Shreveport.
 
Agree on the tournament. Have not seen a bracket…don’t care except to pay attention to see if ku gets beat. Also agree football is headed the same way. Have gotten already to where I don’t care unless the Tigers are involved.
The difference is that fans watch the bowl games. That’s why otherwise meaningless bowl games exist.

Fans don’t watch the NIT. It’s always been one of the dumbest things in all of sports.
 
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On point #7... that's why the break away from the NCAA seems almost inevitable in football. Aside from a few specific bowls, the bowl games have been mostly meaningless for a few years and like you said that is only going to get magnified with the expansion of the playoffs. The playoffs are going to be the only thing that really matters.

The problem is that you've got 134 teams or whatever in the same division and only 14 spots. There are probably 70 or so of those teams that have almost no hope of ever getting into that playoff, and another 10-20 that at best need to catch lightning in a bottle to get in once every few decades. There's absolutely no reason to have all of those teams in the same organization competing for that same title.
Absolutely agree with this!
 
As to point #2, that seems like a laundry list of why our athletic program has been a blackhole of mostly failure for decades. Terrible or nonexistent leadership teamed up with everyone pulling in opposite directions. I think your fear should be Drink looking around at all the dysfunction at some point and telling his agent to get me the hell out of this mess.

As to point #3, is it any surprise that potential candidates are steering clear of this job. Seems like the job might be pretty toxic. I'm fully prepared for an uninspiring hire and hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
The true Mizzou tradition. And it's more than sad.

ONLY when Mizzou has SEC-level leadership above the head coaching level, will we compete in the SEC. It starts at the top.
 
Like I've tried to stress. We don't KNOW it's a mess. We just know nothing. And I think there should be some level of accountability and having to answer questions (even with "no comment") about the way things went down. My stance isn't to say it's hopeless or to blame anyone in particular (I've said over and over I think there was blame on both sides in all likelihood). I just don't like the bunker mentality, we don't ever talk about what we do approach
I appreciate the "thoughts" ...I guess my remark was too general? I don't like the way NCAA sports are heading and your article was pretty bleak. IMO. I believe it all aligns with my thoughts ...considerably. I doubt I watch much of the men's tournament. I've been a bb homer for a long time. We are so removed from it all this year and the last many years (with last year as an outlier) its hard to find interest and With the WBB as it is it all feels like piling on.

Obviously I am a Missouri Wbb honk and As of today ...this? Is a mess.. Not sure how much more
I can take. I will be watching that tournament.
 
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