NEW STORY THE WEALTHTRUST AM RUMOR MILL: DAY 8
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Maybe why kimmie didn't get it. I think in the end though the feeling was that one year a head coach just wasn't the experience that our decision makers wanted. I'd have loved him though (and hell, if Gates leaves at some point then we have Kimmie there with more experience as long as we are still in his good graces)
Given Gates' reputation as a super-star assistant at Florida State, I'm surprised his agent couldn't land him a better starter job than Cleveland State. English landed a spot in the A10 with less experience. Frank Haith went straight from Rick Barnes' staff to head coach in the ACC. Another Barnes assistant was just hired in the AAC.
Who knows, maybe Gates' plan was to find a crappy job and rack up wins against sub-300 Kenpom teams.
I definitely feel that past experiences with coaches that had little to no experience played a role into KE not getting the job and I think it’s the right decision honestly.
If Gates doesn’t work out and KE takes off he should be the first call.
I guess I just don’t see one example as a trend.
And this doesn’t count Kim Anderson because everyone knew that wasn’t going to work out. And no fans were clamoring for him.
Moot point anyway. Maybe Kimmie will be better positioned in 3-4 years when we do this all over again.
Agreed. I think this is the smartest move. Give KE some more time and if Gates either moves on or gets fired we’ll know what KE is as a coach.
The fanbase probably wasnt going to deal with the growing pains which CKE will likely need to go through to become a good coach. I agree with this.
Its problematic though.
Do we really want someone that wants to be at LSU - especially given the issues they have?
Even if he is the next MU coach will he just jump for the next opportunity to go to LSU or somewhere else?
If it is his camp that leaked it, I can’t see that sitting well with DRF and Choi
Even if he is the next MU coach will he just jump for the next opportunity to go to LSU or somewhere else?
If it is his camp that leaked it, I can’t see that sitting well with DRF and Choi
Man - weird shit we're doing to ourselves here. OH NO OUR GUY WAS A CANDIDATE ELSEWHERE. Let's focus on what is important and not get sucked in to the political smarminess of a college basketball coaching search because NOTHING here is unique. It's business.
I'm fine with Gates, and would be excited to see him go to work.
BUT I think this is the shot with Kim English. He's going to get a big job in the next year or 2. If Gates doesn't work, by the time he would be out, Kimmie will have in all likelihood landed a similar job as Mizzou, or possibly better. If George Mason takes off next year he'll be a top candidate.
High likelihood it ends up like KSU's situation with Brad Underwood. Which isn't enough reason alone to make that move.
Just saying... I don't think he remains low-hanging fruit for Mizzou in the future.
BUT I think this is the shot with Kim English. He's going to get a big job in the next year or 2. If Gates doesn't work, by the time he would be out, Kimmie will have in all likelihood landed a similar job as Mizzou, or possibly better. If George Mason takes off next year he'll be a top candidate.
High likelihood it ends up like KSU's situation with Brad Underwood. Which isn't enough reason alone to make that move.
Just saying... I don't think he remains low-hanging fruit for Mizzou in the future.
If he gets Mizzou to where other schools want your coach . That is a very good thing .
As I mentioned previously, it’s Vitello v2.0
Its not just hiring Coach X instead of Coach Y, it’s potentially giving up the chance for the homegrown rockstar coach that would kill for the job that isnt going to give up his rising program to come back and start over.
Vitello has the Vols in the Top 5…he isnt giving that up
If Gates’ agent did the sleazy agent-leak thing and If Choi is seriously involved in this process, I can’t’ see Choi sitting quietly and rubber stamping this. Not his style, I don't think. Guessing he has a very strong and negative reaction.
If he mimics CMs first 4 years he will not be here year 5, he will leave for another school. And Mizzou is no better off.
Kim is from Baltimore and has major connections to George Mason’s biggest recruiting pipeline. That’s why he got the job. He was the first non-sitting HC Mason has hired since Ernie Nestor. You’re reaching way too hard to read something into this.
The question wasn't why Kim English got hired by GMU. Why didn't Gates land a better job than Cleveland State? He's from Chicago with a longer recruiting track record than English. There are dozens of better mid-majors in that region alone, but he ended up taking a lousy job in a bottom-tier conference in July after Dennis Felton ran off most of the roster.
Kimmie would embrace the cesspool.
Gates would continue the “nice guy” have your team be irrelevant that we got from Kim Anderson and Cuonzo.
EMBRACE THE CESSPOOL!
The only thing that will make Mizzou basketball relevant again is if our Administration allows our next HC to recruit the same way as schools such as ku, Arizona, Auburn.
Pay to get the players. It’s about the players, not the HC.
For this reason, Kimmie is the right choice and Gates is more of the irrelevancy we got from Kim Anderson and Cuonzo.
College basketball isn’t that difficult to understand.
Does Mizzou want to be a part of the cesspool, or not? That’s the only question that matters.
Well, his wife is a senior associate AD at Ohio State, so maybe that was a factor. But maybe he just felt it was the right time to make a jump. And the fact that in two years he had his team in the NCAA Tournament after the situation you just described is pretty damn impressive.
The next couple of days? What the hell is going on? This tells me there’s politics involved.
Yep. They’re just reaching for any sh/t to throw that is at hand. Anything … this was just what lined the cage.
