1. BLM, George Floyd, Armaud Arbery. I would love to live in a country where we don't have these incidents, but we don't live in that country yet. I understand the african american community's frustration. I can see where they are pissed. I asked Hood to tell me what he wants, his response, solidarity. So there are two things going on. 1. Policing, 2. Economic. I have been on here saying that these cities, police departments, etc. have been under Democrat policies for decades and they have these problems. My point was, we should analyze what works, what doesn't. Expand what works, eliminate what doesn't, and then bring in new ideas to supplement. This is what every successful business does. On economics, I have many ideas, but I think a good start would be politicians actually meeting with local leaders on what is best to build the cities from inside out. I would love to see conservatives do this. I know that access to capital for new businesses is one lacking in inner cities. Also most businesses that I know work to extract every dollar possible from those in poverty. I am learning through my own dealings that the more money you have, the better economic deals you get (low interest rate loans).
Let me start with Arbery case, because I am little of concerned that his killers could get off. I think what may save Justice here is that Arbery (not sure if he trespassed or not) only trespassed on construction site. Please bear with me. Here is the Georgia Law:
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
So the issue that set off this incident was there was a suspected burglary or at minimum a trespass. According to NY Times (this is based on 911 calls), Mr. Arbery entered the partially constructed property. Now the suspicion is that Mr. Arbery was entering the property to get a drink of water. As a avid jogger (I hate jogging but have to do it for triathlons), I have trespassed on many construction properties while jogging, most of the time, it was to use the port a potty. When you run a lot, some times you gotta go bathroom and construction sites always have portapotties. So I sympothize with Mr. Arbery here. In defense of outraged, they are right, I probably don't have the cops called on me. I have not been arrested or chased down by two rednecks (I'm from the country, I can use it) with guns. So Neighbor calls the cops on Mr. Arbery and these two guys chased him down, demanded he stop (he didn't, I wouldn't either) and then confrontation ensued where one without police training got too close to Mr. Arbery, the fight broke out (as Mr. Arbery justifiably feared for his life) and the man shot Mr. Arbery. So two requirements here: 1. that the offense was in his (white man's) presence or in his immediate knowledge. The facts here are unclear, but the charged say they had immediate knowledge. Here's the case and this is crazy, "If the offense is a felony" Mr. Arbery didn't commit a felony. I don't know of a case where Trespass rises to a felony here. So I think the pursuit is not justified, which gets rid of that whole defense. Additionally, a reasonable person can tell that Mr. Arbery didn't have anything with him, thus no burglary, thus no felony, thus not allowed to pursue. One good thing that can come out of this for BLM movement is that Georgia will finally look at the reform this law. I think there are currently three bills being put forth to address this. Because when you look at everyone involved here, Mr. Arbery was probably terrified, that's why he wouldn't stop and wait for police that he had no knowledge were coming. I defend all of his actions here. Also, we don't want people chasing random people down thinking they are doing a citizen arrest, etc. NOW, we do want people to chase, pursue if there is kidnapping just to track vehicle, but that is easy to address in new law.
As for George Floyd, there is new information that one of the officers (who had only been on the job 4 days) asked the sergeant (murderer) if they should turn him over since Floyd said he couldn't breath, the Sergeant said NO. I think this information is good for everyone that wants justice, because it is damaging to the sergeant's state of mind (intent), it helps show objectively what someone there thought (new officer) and that Sergeant was aware of the concern. This sucks that Floyd died and was murdered, but this information is really good info for the prosecution against the murderer. As for the 4 day on the job officer, I hope we can all understand that he actually tried to do something. Yes, he should have done more, but probably didn't know crap on what to do other than follow orders. I would like @lawgeek to chime in here, he knows more about crim law than I do, but I think this is really good info for lead prosecution on the case.
Let me start with Arbery case, because I am little of concerned that his killers could get off. I think what may save Justice here is that Arbery (not sure if he trespassed or not) only trespassed on construction site. Please bear with me. Here is the Georgia Law:
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
So the issue that set off this incident was there was a suspected burglary or at minimum a trespass. According to NY Times (this is based on 911 calls), Mr. Arbery entered the partially constructed property. Now the suspicion is that Mr. Arbery was entering the property to get a drink of water. As a avid jogger (I hate jogging but have to do it for triathlons), I have trespassed on many construction properties while jogging, most of the time, it was to use the port a potty. When you run a lot, some times you gotta go bathroom and construction sites always have portapotties. So I sympothize with Mr. Arbery here. In defense of outraged, they are right, I probably don't have the cops called on me. I have not been arrested or chased down by two rednecks (I'm from the country, I can use it) with guns. So Neighbor calls the cops on Mr. Arbery and these two guys chased him down, demanded he stop (he didn't, I wouldn't either) and then confrontation ensued where one without police training got too close to Mr. Arbery, the fight broke out (as Mr. Arbery justifiably feared for his life) and the man shot Mr. Arbery. So two requirements here: 1. that the offense was in his (white man's) presence or in his immediate knowledge. The facts here are unclear, but the charged say they had immediate knowledge. Here's the case and this is crazy, "If the offense is a felony" Mr. Arbery didn't commit a felony. I don't know of a case where Trespass rises to a felony here. So I think the pursuit is not justified, which gets rid of that whole defense. Additionally, a reasonable person can tell that Mr. Arbery didn't have anything with him, thus no burglary, thus no felony, thus not allowed to pursue. One good thing that can come out of this for BLM movement is that Georgia will finally look at the reform this law. I think there are currently three bills being put forth to address this. Because when you look at everyone involved here, Mr. Arbery was probably terrified, that's why he wouldn't stop and wait for police that he had no knowledge were coming. I defend all of his actions here. Also, we don't want people chasing random people down thinking they are doing a citizen arrest, etc. NOW, we do want people to chase, pursue if there is kidnapping just to track vehicle, but that is easy to address in new law.
As for George Floyd, there is new information that one of the officers (who had only been on the job 4 days) asked the sergeant (murderer) if they should turn him over since Floyd said he couldn't breath, the Sergeant said NO. I think this information is good for everyone that wants justice, because it is damaging to the sergeant's state of mind (intent), it helps show objectively what someone there thought (new officer) and that Sergeant was aware of the concern. This sucks that Floyd died and was murdered, but this information is really good info for the prosecution against the murderer. As for the 4 day on the job officer, I hope we can all understand that he actually tried to do something. Yes, he should have done more, but probably didn't know crap on what to do other than follow orders. I would like @lawgeek to chime in here, he knows more about crim law than I do, but I think this is really good info for lead prosecution on the case.
