Reed Nikko

[Mizzou101]

Not only did he eat Tilmon's minutes, he was extremely valuable to this win. If this team learns to not stand around looking to pass it low and just let it happen as they go through their motion, then they could regularly get in the 70's. That's enough when they play defense as well as they do.

 

[amhorrell]

We need to adapt to today game which only really calls for bigs scoring off stretching the floor and hitting mid range to 3 point shots, getting duck ins, offensive rebounds, rolling after screens, and dump offs after their man has left to help stop the drive.

 

[brosept]

It was the product of making shots early, and riding that confidence to continue making shots. Really not much more.

 

[Mizzou Mule]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

 

[Mizzou101]

I'm pretty sure Tilmon would prefer this type of offense too.

 

[Sevro au Barca]

It was the product of making shots early, and riding that confidence to continue making shots. Really not much more.

I disagree.


The shot making was made easier by not clogging the lane forcing low percentage post entries. It opened up the middle for drives, creating kick outs to shooter that were much more open than normal. Because of that spacing.

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

Do you have to be a threatened, aggrieved snowflake about everything? Nikko should not have been starting over Tilmon. That is lunacy. However, as I stated above, Tilmon should have been used like Nikko was last night.

Nikko played well because for one of the first times, he was put in a position to succeed on offense. I hope we get to see Tilmon used in the same fashion when he returns.

 

[SECNorth]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

What does political correctness have to do with anything?

Tilmon has physical abilities that Nikki does not. They both seem like they’re working very hard and want to contribute to the team. I agree that Tilmon probably shouldn’t be the focal point of offense. But both of them can help you win. We need Tilmon to get healthy.

 

[Spur06]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

Not politically correct? What the **** are you talking about dude. #weird

Lol

 

[TigerCruise]

Or maybe they hit open 3s for once, something they havent done all year save Chicago St.

 

[rhc4y4]

Not politically correct? What the **** are you talking about dude. #weird

Lol

Trying to bait others into making it about race.

 

[Spur06]

Oh I know. Just wanted to get more laughs with his retort.

 

[Mizzou Mule]

Not politically correct? What the **** are you talking about dude. #weird

Lol

He was/is a hot StL area recruit. Lack of PT = recruiting difficulties in the Lou.

 

[Pale1]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

Mule.....sincerely hope you're kidding (and I don't know what to the hell to make of "not politically correct".

 

[brosept]

I disagree.


The shot making was made easier by not clogging the lane forcing low percentage post entries. It opened up the middle for drives, creating kick outs to shooter that were much more open than normal. Because of that spacing.

It’s a bit chicken or egg. When you make your shots early it creates space. When you continue to make shots it expands your options greatly.

Very few games this season have they come out and made shots early. Yesterday they did. They also didn’t try to work the ball inside from the tip. Coincidence?

I don’t think the presence of a big who everyone knows is getting the ball makes your perimeter shooters less effective. If anything, you’d expect that his absence should make it a tougher day for them to get and make good looks.

The next opponent will pressure the perimeter more aggressively. We’ll see how they adjust.

 

[Ragarm]

Not only did he eat Tilmon's minutes, he was extremely valuable to this win. If this team learns to not stand around looking to pass it low and just let it happen as they go through their motion, then they could regularly get in the 70's. That's enough when they play defense as well as they do.

I certainly agree with you on that "standing around" comment, but I blame that on Martin. That's his job to teach the players what to do and on the O side he doesn't seem want to do it, let anyone else do it.
He really needs to get past his hold um to 50 and score 51 to win games. If he doesn't know how to do it then fire one of his assistance and hire one that does know how and LET HIM do it.

 

[mtb088]

Reed not starting has been recruiting killer for us - we haven’t gotten another kid out of Maple Grove, MN since.

 

[mizzoubj76]

Reed not starting has been recruiting killer for us - we haven’t gotten another kid out of Maple Grove, MN since.

Also, killing our chances for another wildlife and fisheries majors.

BTW, Reed dominated the "Fast Break" competition during a second half timeout. This is the one of the new games with our "in-game hostess." Random fan has 15 seconds to name things in a certain category (ice cream flavors, colors, videos) to try to beat the list pre-recorded with a player. Last night it was "fish." Poor guy from the crowd didn't stand a chance against Reed's list.

 

[gdc941]

Not SIAP. We will miss big sota.

 

[TriggaFigga4Mizzou]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

:CHUCKLES:

 

[Tiger fan in the Lou]

Not politically correct? What the **** are you talking about dude. #weird

Lol

Lol! This is what he was trying to get at

Was nice to see all his hard work pay off just like Mitchel Smith.

 

[Herbo62]

Not only did he eat Tilmon's minutes, he was extremely valuable to this win. If this team learns to not stand around looking to pass it low and just let it happen as they go through their motion, then they could regularly get in the 70's. That's enough when they play defense as well as they do.

Agree!

 

[Herbo62]

It’s a bit chicken or egg. When you make your shots early it creates space. When you continue to make shots it expands your options greatly.

Very few games this season have they come out and made shots early. Yesterday they did. They also didn’t try to work the ball inside from the tip. Coincidence?

I don’t think the presence of a big who everyone knows is getting the ball makes your perimeter shooters less effective. If anything, you’d expect that his absence should make it a tougher day for them to get and make good looks.

The next opponent will pressure the perimeter more aggressively. We’ll see how they adjust.

I hope so. Then the guards can drive the ball to the basket. Shoot the lay up or kick it out for an open 3.

 

[brosept]

I hope so. Then the guards can drive the ball to the basket. Shoot the lay up or kick it out for an open 3.

And if their bigs don’t think they have to worry about Nikko they will be sagging and there will be someone patrolling the lane.

Have to adjust and adjust, be aware and unselfish, and most of all continue to make shots.

 

[MGodich]

Nikko will go down as one of the most underappreciated Tigers of the recent past. Yes, he has his limitations due to the hip issues, but the guy is fundamentally sound. Always seems to be in the right position, and comes up with timely rebounds and blocks. He had another quiet seven points, five rebounds and a block in just 14 minutes. He’ll be missed when he’s gone.

 

[brosept]

Nikko will go down as one of the most underappreciated Tigers of the recent past. Yes, he has his limitations due to the hip issues, but the guy is fundamentally sound. Always seems to be in the right position, and comes up with timely rebounds and blocks. He had another quiet seven points, five rebounds and a block in just 14 minutes. He’ll be missed when he’s gone.

Nothing personally against the kid, but every competent P5 team in America has that guy. If we didn’t have him we’d have someone else who would be doing it.

He isn’t under appreciated, and will only be missed if we don’t recruit at a competent level.

 

[Herbo62]

And if their bigs don’t think they have to worry about Nikko they will be sagging and there will be someone patrolling the lane.

Have to adjust and adjust, be aware and unselfish, and most of all continue to make shots.

Oh I agree, but adjustments are part of the game. I just think it’s so much easier for guys to shoot the 3 ball when the pass they’re getting comes from inside. They’re already facing the basket, and ready to receive the pass and pull the trigger. When the ball gets passed around the perimeter, I think it’s much tougher to get your body in the correct position, and squared up to the basket to shoot. Guard penetration is the key to offensive success. Of course shooting the ball at a 60% rate doesn’t hurt your chances of success either. I doubt we do that very many times though.
Penetrate and kick to the open man when the defense collapses. It’s worked for a lot of years.

 

[MGodich]

Nothing personally against the kid, but every competent P5 team in America has that guy. If we didn’t have him we’d have someone else who would be doing it.

He isn’t under appreciated, and will only be missed if we don’t recruit at a competent level.

Point was he gets dumped on a lot by the astute fans, but the other bigs could learn a thing or two from the way he plays.

But whatever. Have a cheery day.

 

[Herbo62]

With the offense, ball movement, and hitting shots like we did last night, I think Tilmon would have flourished as well. The inside would have been much more open and he would have had room to work had he been able to play. When teams double anybody, somebody is open.

 

[brosept]

Oh I agree, but adjustments are part of the game. I just think it’s so much easier for guys to shoot the 3 ball when the pass they’re getting comes from inside. They’re already facing the basket, and ready to receive the pass and pull the trigger. When the ball gets passed around the perimeter, I think it’s much tougher to get your body in the correct position, and squared up to the basket to shoot. Guard penetration is the key to offensive success. Of course shooting the ball at a 60% rate doesn’t hurt your chances of success either. I doubt we do that very many times though.
Penetrate and kick to the open man when the defense collapses. It’s worked for a lot of years.

It takes more space and time to get outside shots off from perimeter passes vs from interior passes. It is the under appreciated aspect of playing with greater pace. Beating as many defenders as possible down the court makes it easier to get the ball inside whether to finish or to return to the perimeter trailers. Then if you don’t shoot you already have the defense in mismatches or scramble mode as you execute your system.
With as many guards as we have this should be better than what we’ve seen IMO.

If Tilmon is out, I think our screen game to gain mismatches for other players could improve.

 

[brucebeans]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

So Dr Mule when did you come up with this prognosis?

 

[Herbo62]

It takes more space and time to get outside shots off from perimeter passes vs from interior passes. It is the under appreciated aspect of playing with greater pace. Beating as many defenders as possible down the court makes it easier to get the ball inside whether to finish or to return to the perimeter trailers. Then if you don’t shoot you already have the defense in mismatches or scramble mode as you execute your system.
With as many guards as we have this should be better than what we’ve seen IMO.

If Tilmon is out, I think our screen game to gain mismatches for other players could improve.

I agree. We’ve played so poorly the last 2 years, that it was becoming hard to watch.
I never liked the CM hire in the 1st place, and ain’t on board yet either. He’s got to pick up the pace in recruiting better players. More ingenuity on offense. And continue to play great defense.
There is no rule that says you can’t hold the other team to 60 and still score 70-75 a game. You can do both! But he’s going to have to be less hard headed, and recruit better than Wilmore and Okongo! That ain’t gonna cut it here in my opinion.

 

[MCPieper]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

Head case? I say he just doesn’t understand how to play the game.

 

[unclepoppop]

Nothing personally against the kid, but every competent P5 team in America has that guy. If we didn’t have him we’d have someone else who would be doing it.
He isn’t under appreciated, and will only be missed if we don’t recruit at a competent level.

Every team may have that guy but he’s our guy.

just sayin’

 

[brosept]

Every team may have that guy but he’s our guy.

just sayin’

Right, but it shouldn’t be difficult to replace or be missed if you are doing things right. Tilmon on the other hand...

 

[unclepoppop]

Right, but it shouldn’t be difficult to replace or be missed if you are doing things right. Tilmon on the other hand...

so far not sure if that holds true. It seems they play better offense when he is not involved

 

[malvern]

Nikko should have been starting day-one. But that's not politically correct.

Martin knows that Tilmon is a head case. And if Martin doesn't know that...well...

He’s better than Timon across the board, but Reed has improved a ton from footwork to catching the ball. Not sure he was better day one, but indeed Timon has benefited from HS press clippings and STARS. I’m not taking anything away from Tilmon. It appears we have two capable post players. CM should change how he uses these guys. Tilmon should back up Reed which would save his fouls.

 

[rcruter]

thanks for the laugh posters! Reed better than Tilmon? Now THAT's comedy right there. Tilmon has elite ability offensively and us uber athletic while reed can hardly jump or run or shoot. Is a nice complimentary piece as a fill in. Truly amusing. Yes JT refuses to adjust enough and doesn't utilize his incredible tools to be a more effective rebounder or defender but as far as ability they are not even close.