Who do you trust? (pandemic edition)

[bhinkle50]

average recovery time improved by 20% for the Ivermectin group. Did you read the results or just the big pharma propaganda headline?

Yeah, this table really shows a big difference between the Ivermectin group and Placebo group.

 

[bhinkle50]

YouTube specifically lists in their terms of service that Ivermectin as something that can't be promoted. Try tweeting something pro-Ivermectin and see what happens.

You guys won't allow debate on Ivermectin. So obviously there's true information that you don't want the public to know about.

I just want a study published that proves it helps. You can't cite one because they don't exist. The 20% you mentioned earlier is explained in the study if you would have kept reading. It's why the authors came to the conclusion they did.

If you want to inject bleach or stick a UV light down your throat, no one is going to stop you, and it might actually be fun to watch if you want to record it for us.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

Yeah, this table really shows a big difference between the Ivermectin group and Placebo group.

right. There's no difference in adverse events because it's a safe drug

 

[CTG-Tiger]

I just want a study published that proves it helps. You can't cite one because they don't exist. The 20% you mentioned earlier is explained in the study if you would have kept reading. It's why the authors came to the conclusion they did.

If you want to inject bleach or stick a UV light down your throat, no one is going to stop you, and it might actually be fun to watch if you want to record it for us.

There's no double blind controlled studies because there's no funding because there's no profit in proving a generic drug works. Vacations for Team Fauci don't pay for themselves. It takes vaccine sales to let those folks live like ballers

 

[markwaltman]

Ok, Dr. Google, if it's so easy then post the links. Here's one I found by using your method:

Conclusion and Relevance Among adults with mild COVID-19, a 5-day course of ivermectin, compared with placebo, did not significantly improve the time to resolution of symptoms. The findings do not support the use of ivermectin for treatment of mild COVID-19, although larger trials may be needed to understand the effects of ivermectin on other clinically relevant outcomes.

The other one that has been pulled is what is cited by the front line grifters. I hope you read the article I linked that showed how they are grifting you and people like you who insist on not believing in credible medical professionals.

The difference is that you cherry-picked for studies that did not support ivermectin, while I told people where they could find all of the studies so they can judge for themselves. Just because a few studies did not come out in support of ivermectin doesn't invalidate all of the studies that supported ivermectin. Nobody is grifting me; I simply went to my independent physician, discussed my specific set of circumstances, and we agreed on a protocol that he suggested.

 

[bhinkle50]

right. There's no difference in adverse events because it's a safe drug

I linked the wrong table. This table explains why they came to the conclusion they did. You'll notice the lines are not materially different.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

I linked the wrong table. This table explains why they came to the conclusion they did. You'll notice the lines are not materially different.

the yellow line is always on top

 

[bhinkle50]

The difference is that you cherry-picked for studies that did not support ivermectin, while I told people where they could find all of the studies so they can judge for themselves. Just because a few studies did not come out in support of ivermectin doesn't invalidate all of the studies that supported ivermectin. Nobody is grifting me; I simply went to my independent physician, discussed my specific set of circumstances, and we agreed on a protocol that he suggested.

You haven't provided a single study that supports your position. I'm happy you convinced your physician to give you an anti-parasite drug based on no valid medical studies that prove it has an effect on COVID.

Are you vaccinated?

 

[bhinkle50]

the yellow line is always on top

If there was a clear benefit it would not align the way it does. A sample of 400 people can easily explain the differences shown, it's why they authors concluded what they did.

 

[dreamlaw]

no we live in a world with a bunch of people that consume propaganda sponsored by big pharma

the fact that ivermectin info is censored is all you need to know

Dude, ivermectin is made by Merck. You’re such a complete fool.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

Dude, ivermectin is made by Merck. You’re such a complete fool.

Compare the profit margin on the vaccine with the profit margin on ivermectin. That’s all you need to know to explain why there is a desperate need for you guys to censor good things on ivermectin. Just assume anything they don’t want you to hear is true and important.

 

[dreamlaw]

Compare the profit margin on the vaccine with the profit margin on ivermectin. That’s all you need to know to explain why there is a desperate need for you guys to censor good things on ivermectin. Just assume anything they don’t want you to hear is true and important.

The profit margin on ivermectin is enormous because it’s already paid for.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

The profit margin on ivermectin is enormous because it’s already paid for.

Drugs they give away in Africa won’t fund baller lifestyles for team Fauci

 

[WheatStripes]

Drugs they give away in Africa won’t fund baller lifestyles for team Fauci

Umm, are they not giving away the vaccine?

 

[CTG-Tiger]

Umm, are they not giving away the vaccine?

Fvck no. The USA is paying the highest price in the world for it. Now Fauci’s boys can go buy that 100 foot yacht

 

[WheatStripes]

Fvck no. The USA is paying the highest price in the world for it. Now Fauci’s boys can go buy that 100 foot yacht

It’s just as free to US citizens as Ivermectin is to the African folks you referenced. Someone always pays for it.

I wouldn’t have figured you as the “companies shouldn’t profit from successful products” guy.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

It’s just as free to US citizens as Ivermectin is to the African folks you referenced. Someone always pays for it.

I wouldn’t have figured you as the “companies shouldn’t profit from successful products” guy.

I kind of doubt that the Congo pays enough to move the needle of yacht sales to Merck execs

 

[WheatStripes]

I kind of doubt that the Congo pays enough to move the needle of yacht sales to Merck execs

I guess we just disagree about whether pharmaceutical companies should be able to make money on the products that they produce.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

I guess we just disagree about whether pharmaceutical companies should be able to make money on the products that they produce.

Of course they should make money. The trouble is that the amount they are going to make predicts with near certainty what team Fauci will recommend and what you guys allow us to say about it

 

[Pale1]

I just want a study published that proves it helps. You can't cite one because they don't exist. The 20% you mentioned earlier is explained in the study if you would have kept reading. It's why the authors came to the conclusion they did.

If you want to inject bleach or stick a UV light down your throat, no one is going to stop you, and it might actually be fun to watch if you want to record it for us.

hinkie........how about easing up a bit on @CTG-Tiger . He's been pretty thoroughly emasculated ITT, having been reduced to whining about yachts. Also, to be fair, I don't think the former president ever advocated jamming a UV light down anyone's throat. It was pretty clear that he envisioned the UV light be inserted rectally. Get your facts straight.

 

[Corn Pop]

Who do I Trust.
I can tell you I dont trust a brain defective crook who uses covid as a way to control us all the while opening the border to over a million illegal immigrants without requiring them to test or wear masks. These immigrants are then shipped all over the country at government expense.
If Biden wants to preach to me about Covid he may want to be concerned about who is bring Covid into this country.

 

[TigerTJ]

Who do I Trust.
I can tell you I dont trust a brain defective crook who uses covid as a way to control us all the while opening the border to over a million illegal immigrants without requiring them to test or wear masks. These immigrants are then shipped all over the country at government expense.
If Biden wants to preach to me about Covid he may want to be concerned about who is bring Covid into this country.

Covid is already here. It's white, evangelical and charismatic Christian conservatives that are spreading it.

 

[CTG-Tiger]

hinkie........how about easing up a bit on @CTG-Tiger . He's been pretty thoroughly emasculated ITT, having been reduced to whining about yachts. Also, to be fair, I don't think the former president ever advocated jamming a UV light down anyone's throat. It was pretty clear that he envisioned the UV light be inserted rectally. Get your facts straight.

Your head is spinning. You learned in this thread that you can predict the recommended medical procedure by what’s most profitable for Big Pharma and you can’t reconcile that fact

 

[dennyb64]

Compare the profit margin on the vaccine with the profit margin on ivermectin. That’s all you need to know to explain why there is a desperate need for you guys to censor good things on ivermectin. Just assume anything they don’t want you to hear is true and important.

If they found out that it truly worked against Covid they would raise the prices and make even more money.

 

[RockemTigers]

Like so many topics these days, it's a matter of who you listen to and who you think is telling the truth. Do you believe:

1) Politician Joe Biden, expert in virology/immunology Dr. Fauci, and the alphabet soup crowd (FDA/CDC/NIH/NIAID/WHO) who think that every person should be medically treated as if they were identical to every other person, and everyone, including Covid survivors and young children, should be vaccinated, and coerced to do so if necessary, even if against their personal physician's best judgement. This has resulted in:
a) Fauci contradicting himself occasionally, even when there is no new information to be considered, and occasionally being at odds with the pronouncements of Biden and FDA/CDC/NIH/NIAID/WHO; most recently:
1) WHO has proposed that before boosters are administered routinely in the U.S., that vaccines are shared with other countries who haven't had initial vaccinations yet(source: Google)
2) Several FDA officials have resigned over Biden's announcement of a September 20 availability date of boosters (source: Google)
b) Biden, Fauci, and FDA/CDC/NIH/NIAID are all associated with and support plans to:
1) enrich hospitals/deplete the U.S. government through huge Medicare/insurance payments to hospitals for Covid inpatients including false positives (source: Google)
2) discourage/disallow the use of prophylactics or early therapeutics to treat patients (source: Google) resulting in patients that could have recovered ending up in the hospital (source: Worldometer)
3) in the process of #1/#2 above, allowing hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens to die without being treated with inexpensive/available drugs that have been proven safe over 40 years, (source:Google) and effective initially on an anecdotal basis through physicians and later through clinical trials, in reducing the incidence of major complications and lengthy hospital stays due to Covid
4) enrich Big Pharma/deplete the u.S. government through huge lump sum payments for vaccines, and marginally higher payments based on the number of doses administered (source:Google)
5) stand by while PCR test instructions generated massive false positives/panic during the Trump administration, only to have the PCR test instructions revised so they show far fewer false positives starting 2 days after Biden's inauguration. (source:my personal physician)
6) Ignore the fact that that natural immunity through recovering from Covid is 10-20 times more protective than vaccinations
c) there is credible information to suggest that Fuaci and FDA/CDC/NIH/NIAID officials were at least in part responsible for the U.S. assisting in funding the development of coronaviruses in China 2014-2019, and have continued to assist in funding scientific projects in China since Covid appeared in 2019 (source: Congressional hearings, documented articles in the National Pulse)
d) there is credible information to suggest that Fauci may have lied to Congress (source: Congressional hearings)

2) Dr. Robert Malone, an equally eminent expert in virology/immunology, who: (source: Google)
a) believes that each doctor should treat each individual patient based on that patient's specific set of circumstances, and make decisions in consultation with his/her physician
b) is not beholden to or under the thumb of Biden, Fauci, and FDA/CDC/NIH/NIAID, but whose only allegiance is to saving lives of his/his colleagues patients
c) worked initially with a low profile, through consultation with dozens of physicians in the field throughout the world, and numerous clinics worldwide, before arriving at/announcing a set of recommendations, which included:
1) isolate high risk populations so as to restrict access to infection, and prescribe prophylactics to further protect high risk populations; if high risk patients become infected, treat with early therapeutics and observe to see if hospitalization is required
2) in the case of low risk populations, do not isolate, prescribe prophylactics to reduce the likelihood of infection; if they still become infected, prescribe early therapeutics to control the progress of the disease, and observe for need for hospitalization.
3) once vaccines are approved, recommend them for them for high risk populations, and make them available for the consideration by lower risk populations and their physicians on a case by case basis;
4) do not force/mandate vaccinations on the general population, as that runs the risk of causing the development of new variants different from the original, which may/may not be equally well controlled by the original set of vaccines, and potentially could be more contagious and/or deadly than the original disease.
d) maintained communications with physicians/clinics world-wide, as the statistics mount up:
1) in favor of the early use of prophylactics/therapeutics through anecdotal reports of physicians and clinical studies world wide
2) variants developed in response to mass vaccinations, with most vaccines unable to maintain initial efficacy in protecting people from new variants
3) initial one/two step vaccinations needing to be supplemented by boosters, some of which were not specifically designed to protect against new variants
(source: Google and 15-20 hours of audio/video interviews with Dr. Malone and his colleagues)

Too long bro

Dude, ivermectin is made by Merck. You’re such a complete fool.

do you take it?

 

[TigerCruise]

Is there some crazy side effect to taking ivermectin? It's like HCQ, it's ****ing harmless, so why the huge war against it?

 

[bhinkle50]

Is there some crazy side effect to taking ivermectin? It's like HCQ, it's ****ing harmless, so why the huge war against it?

You think all the reports of people being hospitalized for overdosing on the animal version of Ivermectin are false?

 

[TigerCruise]

You think all the reports of people being hospitalized for overdosing on the animal version of Ivermectin are false?

Who told someone to take the horse version?

And yes, wasn't that story debunked?

Rolling Stone forced to issue an 'update' after viral hospital ivermectin story turns out to be false

Rolling Stone was forced to issue an update to its viral story about Oklahoma hospitals being overwhelmed by patients who overdosed on the drug ivermectin after the doctor it cited was contradicted by the hospitals he referenced.

www.foxnews.com

 

[RockemTigers]

 

[shoegazer]

I trust anyone that isn’t an expert.